Bachelor Party

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You have to refuse going to this bachelor party. It will only be a bad thing.
 
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bjorn:
wow.
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I agree with the above posters. That could be interpretated the wrong way.

That being said, why haven’t you condemned this bachelor party idea? I figured the Amish would be against such a thing. I guess you are not a very good Amish person simply because you are using a computer.:rolleyes:
 
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Genesis315:
I agree with the above posters. That could be interpretated the wrong way.

That being said, why haven’t you condemned this bachelor party idea? I figured the Amish would be against such a thing. I guess you are not a very good Amish person simply because you are using a computer.:rolleyes:
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I thought Bjorm was Calvinist.
 
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Hermione:
Why risk it? Jesus didn’t suffer and die so that we could watch people undress and shake their private parts for money.
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Yeah. You’re right.

And I have had a problem with pornography in the past so I shouldn’t go near temptation.
 
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OldStNick:
Yeah. You’re right.

And I have had a problem with pornography in the past so I shouldn’t go near temptation.
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You’ve gotten some good advice here in this thread.

Another thing to consider is the sin of scandal. Your mere presence probably would be construed as tacit approval of the mortal sins that will no doubt be occurring at this affair.
 
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OldStNick:
Actually I don’t think he’s abusing her but they do have an unusual relationship. From things they have said before, I get the feeling that she is attracted to women as well and that he gets some kind of kick out of that. In fact, he has once boasted about how at a party while she was drunk, she “made out” with another woman.

You think it would be right to just tell them I can’t be in the wedding at this point?
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Your immortal soul is more important than your friend’s filthy party. It’s even worth more than your friendship. However, if he really is your friend, he will respect your decision not to participate in the sexfest.
 
I think bachelors parties get way out of hand. Whats the poiint? rest up for the marriage.
 
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OldStNick:
I feel that since I am in the wedding and he has been my good friend for 15 years, I am obligated to go to this bachelor party. And although my intentions are good, I know I might see things at this club that may be unwholesome.
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You are morally OBLIGATED not to go to this party. Your obligation to GOD supercedes any obligation to anyone or thing in the secular world.
As far as paid lap dancers that yes contributing money to it is sinful . In fact endorsing this “party” in anyway is sinful in many ways.

Catechism of the Catholic Church
**2354 ***Pornography *consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.

**2355 ***Prostitution *does injury to the dignity of the person who engages in it, reducing the person to an instrument of sexual pleasure. The one who pays sins gravely against himself: he violates the chastity to which his Baptism pledged him and defiles his body, the temple of the Holy Spirit. Prostitution is a social scourge. It usually involves women, but also men, children, and adolescents (The latter two cases involve the added sin of scandal.). While it is always gravely sinful to engage in prostitution, the imputability of the offense can be attenuated by destitution, blackmail, or social pressure.

**2518 **The sixth beatitude proclaims, “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.” “Pure in heart” refers to those who have attuned their intellects and wills to the demands of God’s holiness, chiefly in three areas: charity; chastity or sexual rectitude; love of truth and orthodoxy of faith. There is a connection between purity of heart, of body, and of faith:

**2520 **Baptism confers on its recipient the grace of purification from all sins. But the baptized must continue to struggle against concupiscence of the flesh and disordered desires. With God’s grace he will prevail
  • by the *virtue *and gift of chastity, for chastity lets us love with upright and undivided heart;
  • by purity of intention which consists in seeking the true end of man: with simplicity of vision, the baptized person seeks to find and to fulfill God’s will in everything;
  • by purity of vision, external and internal; by discipline of feelings and imagination; by refusing all complicity in impure thoughts that incline us to turn aside from the path of God’s commandments: “Appearance arouses yearning in fools”; - by prayer:
**2521 **Purity requires modesty, an integral part of temperance. Modesty protects the intimate center of the person. It means refusing to unveil what should remain hidden. It is ordered to chastity to whose sensitivity it bears witness. It guides how one looks at others and behaves toward them in conformity with the dignity of persons and their solidarity.
 
  1. Avoid immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the immoral person sins against his own body.
  2. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?
  3. For you have been purchased at a price. Therefore, glorify God in your body.
    1 Cor 6:18-20
  4. Now the works of the flesh are obvious: immorality, impurity, licentiousness,
  5. idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, rivalry, jealousy, outbursts of fury, acts of selfishness, dissensions, factions,
  6. occasions of envy, drinking bouts, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
  7. In contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness,
  8. gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
    Gal 5:19-23
  9. Let marriage be honored among all and the marriage bed be kept undefiled, for God will judge the immoral and adulterers.
    Heb 13:4
 
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bjorn:
wow.
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I think he was just “surprised” as in “excited” when he read what she wrote. I have to admit, it was kind of exciting ALTHOUGH it is a sin. A mortal one at that. (For me)
 
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nike248:
I think he was just “surprised” as in “excited” when he read what she wrote. I have to admit, it was kind of exciting ALTHOUGH it is a sin. A mortal one at that. (For me)
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I think a short response like that can make a person hesitate though about themself.

I am not sure what you mean “exciting”.
 
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jimmy:
I think a short response like that can make a person hesitate though about themself.

I am not sure what you mean “exciting”.
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As in doing something that’s forbidden. That’s the reason why most of us sin in the first place.
 
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nike248:
As in doing something that’s forbidden. That’s the reason why most of us sin in the first place.
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I see what you mean, I guess I would agree, but I don’t think we should focus on her post.
 
my daughters husbands to be had golf outings, and in one case a softball game and cookout as bachelor parties. their father let it be known that they would not be marrying anyone whose idea of entertainmen included so called gentlemens clubs, strippers, drinking to the point of stupefication or other juvenile behavior.
 
The bachelor parties in my family tend to just be a bunch of guys stuffing their faces with food:D . Mmmmm. Sausage and peppers…so good…
 
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nike248:
I think he was just “surprised” as in “excited” when he read what she wrote. I have to admit, it was kind of exciting ALTHOUGH it is a sin. A mortal one at that. (For me)
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yes that is what i meant and i stand by my “wow”
 
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bjorn:
yes that is what i meant and i stand by my “wow”
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Just try to be carefull with short answers like that, they can really hit on a persons confidence if they are not sure what you are saying.
 
Bachelor parties are really immoral/amoral type events, and I don’t think its possible to make such an event which is focused on heavy drinking and socializing with prostitutes, moral or even neutral, regardless of whether you abstain from private dancing or any other particular aspect of the party.
 
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