Backlash over Martin’s LGBT book prompts speech cancellations

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Sad commentary on the state of collapse of proper catechesis in the Church today that people actually need to debate whether Father Martin’s views are problematic in light of Catholic moral theology.
 
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The “holy priest” in question also has a Twitter page that makes interesting reading for those who want a lesson in holiness. You can play a game of counting how many times he uses versions of the word “hate” (hatred, hateful, etc.) with respect to his critics. He also throws out the word “evil” about them.

Make no mistake: there’s an agenda at work here, and the agenda is the normalization/acceptance of homosexuality in the Catholic Church. Father and his defenders are just upset that people are actually calling him on the nonsense.
 
I can’t play video right now. In a nutshell what is it he says?
 
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There is nothing stated in that section that cannot be stated by a holy priest. 🤨
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If you think that is the case, then we simply live in different universes. Oh well.
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There’s only one Catholic universe, so to speak, so really we shouldn’t be reading his comments as differently as we seem to be…
 
And when the Pharisees saw this, they said to his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

Matthew 9:11
 
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PluniaZ said:
And when the Pharisees saw this, they said to his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

Matthew 9:11
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Hey, I eat with homosexuals all the time. I don’t encourage them to pursue “marital” relationships. Your argument is invalid.
 
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There’s only one Catholic universe, so to speak, so really we shouldn’t be reading his comments as differently as we seem to be…
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Surely you jest? There is one universe that sees the Christian life as pursuing holiness by embracing one’s cross in imitation of Jesus, and honestly admitting it when falling short of that ideal. There is another bizarro universe, where Matthew 10:34-39 is whited out of the bible, and the chief objective is to relentlessly pursue whatever impulses one has, and scream “Hatred!” whenever those impulses are challenged.

Seriously, check out Martin’s tweets from today. He has no shame whatsoever. But I suppose that is the point. Where there is no shame, there is no need to admit any wrongdoing.
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I jest when pointing out that there is one Catholic Church? Not at all. It’s “bizarro” that you think that’s a joke.

You haven’t explained why you think that in the section of the interview you noted, you think no holy priest would make such comments. Do tell.
 
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You haven’t explained why you think that in the section of the interview you noted, you think no holy priest would make such comments. Do tell.
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A holy priest would not dismiss the notion of chastity as if it is negligible.
 
1neophyte said:
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You haven’t explained why you think that in the section of the interview you noted, you think no holy priest would make such comments. Do tell.
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A holy priest would not dismiss the notion of chastity as if it is negligible.
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It’s a good thing, then, that Fr. Martin didn’t do this in the segment to which you pointed.
 
Well, Fr. Martin’s method of preaching the Gospel is, without a doubt, quite divergent from the way Saint Paul went about converting those he encountered on his missionary travels. Paul was always ready to call a spade a spade. “Bridge building” may not be a metaphor that is particularly consonant with bringing the Gospel in all its fullness and requisite demands to all nations. That’s my impression, anyways.
 
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Well, Fr. Martin’s method of preaching the Gospel is, without a doubt, quite divergent from the way Saint Paul went about converting those he encountered on his missionary travels. Paul was always ready to call a spade a spade. “Bridge building” may not be a metaphor that is particularly consonant with bringing the Gospel in all its fullness and requisite demands to all nations. That’s my impression, anyways.
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Exactly. In the words of someone far more eloquent than I, there is no need to build a bridge. We already have a perfectly good bridge: it’s called the confessional.
 
Every day I think about how if Jesus came back today he’d totally be eating dinner with all the gay people.
I’m not sure what he would say to them exactly, but I know he’d definitely be hanging out with them.
 
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Every day I think about how if Jesus came back today he’d totally be eating dinner with all the gay people.
I’m not sure what he would say to them exactly, but I know he’d definitely be hanging out with them.
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Yes, He most certainly would. He would not be helping them plan their weddings, however.
 
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1neophyte:
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It’s a good thing, then, that Fr. Martin didn’t do this in the segment to which you pointed.
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He certainly did. Again, we’re apparently living in different universes.
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You keep saying this without supporting it, though. ??
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I supported it with video footage of the words coming directly out of his mouth. I can think of no better support. Your inability (or more likely, refusal) to comprehend is something I can do nothing about, so it’s time to bid you adieu. Enjoy your confusion.
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How charitable.

I haven’t refused to understand anything. I need someone to explain what I’m supposed to be hearing in Fr. Martin’s words that I’m not currently hearing. If you’re unwilling to do this, it’s better not to slander this priest by making allegations you won’t support.
 
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