Baptism by Blood?

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Dauphin said:
“After grace had been revealed, both learned and simple folk are bound to explicit faith in the mysteries of Christ”

This teaching of St. Thomas Aquinas, along with the statement of the Papal Magisterium I quoted before, should be enough to satisfy anyone.
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Amen! Extra Ecclessiam nulla solus all the way.
 
Dauphin said:
“After grace had been revealed, both learned and simple folk are bound to explicit faith in the mysteries of Christ”

This teaching of St. Thomas Aquinas, along with the statement of the Papal Magisterium I quoted before, should be enough to satisfy anyone.
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Yes. Our disagreement is only about those who have faith in Jesus, but find themselves outside of the earthly Church.

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All of this discussion is very interesting… I think in this discussion we need to keep in mind a few thoughts. Ignorance through no fault of your own is indeed the only real defense against not being united to the Church, but since we have no way of knowing what truly goes on in the heads and the hearts of others, we don’t know if the ignorance is deliberate or not. Certainly one can understand that in some parts of the world that one is unable to hear the truth.

Likewise though, I think we need to remember that many, because of those who acted in the name of the Church (even if in fact they were not working at the behest of the Church) have a deep seated mistrust of the Church. If they cannot, because of this mistrust, really recognize the truth of the Church, I think that can apply as grounds for innocent ignorance.

Mind you, I don’t pretend to know how many people, if any such a condition applies to. I just think in general, we need to be as charitable as possible to others.

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Bill
 
charity toward all, and the greatest act of Christian love is to offer Salvation and bring someone to conversion. May the Holy Ghost guide us all to do this with sincere Christ-like Caritas
 
Brian777 said:
charity toward all, and the greatest act of Christian love is to offer Salvation and bring someone to conversion. May the Holy Ghost guide us all to do this with sincere Christ-like Caritas
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And in this I agree entirely. Obviously those who are within the Church are most likely to be properly united with the Church and thus to be saved. I simply want people to remember that we can never know the reason why some decline to explicitly accept the message of the Gospel; it might well be because of a lack of charity on the part of those who claim to be from the Church.

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Bill
 
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