Baptisms without joining the Church

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I’m just worried about all those folks who have not been baptized because not only does it require belief in the Trinity but requires membership in Church… Does that one thing condemn a person to hell? What about baptism of desire? Do you or does a person have to DESIRE to be a member of a certain church or can the desire just be to believe in God, Jesus his son and the Holy Spirit???

I love our Roman Catholic Church. And I also love everyone else to the point that I ask them if they have been baptized. But I don’t go that extra step and ask them to go to the Catholic Church to be baptized. (There are very few Catholics in my area.) I just hate for my neighbors to be going to hell because perhaps they have not been baptized…
 
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I’m not sure. I believe we can be baptized to clear original sin. Say for military deployment. If my Catholic Church will not do it, go to a Baptist Church. Hey do it. Baptism doesn’t make you a religion. It clears original sin and brings us into the family of God. The Catholic Church accepts the baptisms of different faiths.
It’s sad. We are in a war. Can’t we help Gods children to receive Christ at what ever level they are???
This is true: My daughter was going to Marry a soldier. He was raised Christian but wasn’t baptized. Long story. A Baptist Church baptized him. My church refused to marry them b/c they didn’t have 6 months for pre-Cana conferences.
So, they were married in my back yard w a Protestant minister.
Now, you can figure how this goes.Jason was killed in Iraq. My daughter b/c an Atheist.
Furthermore, I’ve been married 50 yrs. Brainwasked good. FOR BETTER OR WORSE. Don’t get stuck in WORSE. Never say, DIVORCE! Say,” FIX IT!.
How many couples taking Pre-Cana courses, stayed married???
In Christ’s love
Tweedlealice
 
Even if a person baptized with the trinitarian formula says they are not Catholic, they are connected to the Church. They are not in full communion, but they have a piece. That is why baptisms done in other denominations are recognized by the Church.
 
WOW! and thank you. This answers a lot of my questions. I do see the difference between infant baptism and adult baptism NOW! I guess I had never looked at it like that and it makes sense to me that as an adult, one has responsibility… (Still, I wish we could just baptize everyone! in a rash kind of way. joking :black_joker)
 
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petra22 said:
I’m just worried about all those folks who have not been baptized because not only does it require belief in the Trinity but requires membership in Church
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Really? What “church” is that?
petra22 said:
Does that one thing condemn a person to hell?
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well, let’s see. Jesus is the Head of His One Body, the Church.
Baptism joins a person to Christ in His death and resurrection, making one a member of His One Body, the Church.
A person does not want to be a part of His One Body, the Church.

It seems as though Jesus will allow a person to reject membership in Himself.
petra22 said:
What about baptism of desire?
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iT would certainly demonstrate more integrity to place confidence in the baptism of desire than to ask the Church for the Sacrament with disingnenous motives!
petra22 said:
Do you or does a person have to DESIRE to be a member of a certain church or can the desire just be to believe in God, Jesus his son and the Holy Spirit???
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Baptism is not about "a certain church, but a belief in God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The question is, what is it that is interfering with the candidates’ desire to be part of the Body.
petra22 said:
I just hate for my neighbors to be going to hell because perhaps they have not been baptized…
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It appears that you are not well catechized in your faith.
 
MCH1 said:
Their is something called “Baptism of Desire”.
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This applies to catechumens who die prior to their baptism, not to just anyone who says, “gee, it’d be nice to get baptized.” 😉
 
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That’s a good idea about the Chaplin!!
In Christ’s Love
Tweedlealice
 
If your son confesses that Jesus is the son of God then there should be no barriers to him being baptized.

Read the end of Acts chapter 8 starting at verse 26:

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Acts 8 DRA - - Bible Gateway

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Keep in mind that you can baptize him yourself. This is what the Catholic Church teaches. It does not have to be done by a priest.
 
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Great question to make me put on my thinking cap! Thanks!
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We don’t have a record of most of the Apostles being baptized, even with the baptism of John. How did they become “clean”?
 
This seems like an extraordinary circumstance to me.

Anyway, he can go to the Protestant Church down the road and be baptized just the same. It is the same baptism.
 
A “baptism without joining the Church” is a non-sequitur, a contradiction in terms. Can we have a wedding without a marriage, a funeral without a death?
 
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Anyway, he can go to the Protestant Church down the road and be baptized just the same. It is the same baptism.
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It seems to me it would be much more honest to get such a baptism if one does not really want to understand or undertake the expectations of one’s role in the Church.
 
Won’t it be good for son to actually join the church and overcome his shyness? You can explain the situation to a priest and they will find someone who is good with children.
I know all parents see their children as unique and very very special, but growing up I wish for example my mother trusted me more instead of hoping we will be forever linked like we were when I was a baby inside her. I also wish they taught me how to swim and the little push towards the world is like swimming.
Maybe your son just fears many things about talking with a priest about religion, including the fear that the priest may say certain ideas of his are not in line with the teaching of the Church. But this is just a fear. You don’t know what the priest will actually say. But you do know your son will one day enter the world on his own and everything is just preparation for when that happens.
May God bless you and your son whatever you decide to do.
 
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It seems to me it would be much more honest to get such a baptism if one does not really want to understand or undertake the expectations of one’s role in the Church.
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I agree with you in principle on that point.

On the other hand, I find it completely unjustifiable to place a greater burden on a person seeking baptism then Philip placed on the Ethiopian eunuch. If the original poster is not able to take his son to a Catholic Church to be baptized under the circumstances described, well let’s just say I’m more than comfortable with my non denominational protestantism.
 
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