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Karin
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I would think that an LDS would have a different view or what a Catholic bible says.That is just bad logic, and incorrect use of the language. Words need to be understood in their context. In the above example, “until” clearly means “never,” because it is understood that no one can have children after they are dead. But in the case of Joseph and Mary, the use of the word would be, grammatically and lexically, utterly meaningless, inappropriate, and unnecessary, if the intention was to convey the idea that he “did not know her” at all.
I am not what you are referring to here. You need to give references so I know what you are talking about.
That is just wrong. The context implies precisely that. The context determines the meaning. I did a computer search, and found that the word “until” occurs 350 times in the Bible—far too many to quote as examples! So I will just pick out a couple:
Genesis 24:
33 And there was set meat before him to eat: but he said, I will not eat, until I have told mine errand. And he said, Speak on.So does that mean that he did not intend to eat after he had “told his errand”? “Until” implies the opposite, that his “not eating” was to last only for the duration it took him to “tell his errand,” after which he should eat. Here is another:
Genesis 27:
44 And tarry with him a few days, until thy brother’s fury turn away;Does that mean that he should “tarry with him” forever? Obviously not. The “tarrying with him” was to last for the duration of his “brother’s fury,” after which it should come to an end—as in fact it did.
The word “until” implies a restriction in time or space for a limited duration, after which the restriction should come to an end. that is the correct lexical meaning of it.
That is moot. She obviously understood the angel to be saying that she should become pregnant immediately, before her marriage was consummated with Joseph, therefore she raises that question.
zerinus
Search the Scriptures all you want, and **you will not find Mary identified as the mother of anyone but Jesus. **Her perpetual virginity has been taught by the Christian faith from the beginning. St. Augustine in the fifth century described Mary as “a virgin who conceives, a virgin who gives birth, a virgin with child, a virgin delivered of child - a virgin ever virgin.”