Beirut blast: Massive explosion shakes Lebanon's capital; at least 70 dead, thousands injured

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@pnewton You never heard of him because most likely you don’t live in Italy.
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With this claim, I do not doubt many more will hear of him and his name will be more well known. He goes by the nickname Mr. Dynamite.
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@pnewton What I am trying to say is that somebody can be well known in a country but not in an other. Do you know the name of the Italian President? (No peeking in wikipedia…). Probably you don’t, but in Italy and Europe he is well known.
Funny enough some US sport celebrities, politicians etc. are totally unknown to the majority of Italians (or Europeans).
 
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@pnewton Did you read the article from JP? Here an excerpt from it.

‘’Hezbollah has a significant arsenal of explosives, missiles, ammunition and more stored in populated areas across the country, including in Beirut.
A July report by the ALMA Research and Education Center found that the group has at least 28 missile launching sites, command and control infrastructure, missile assembly sites, rocket fuel storage sites and missile bunkers next to high schools, clinics, hospitals, golf clubs and soccer fields as well as the Iranian Embassy and the Lebanese Ministry of Defense.’’

There is not an official war but this is not a peaceful situation either.
 
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The latest uprising is over taxes and the economy, and was not an armed revold. I remember when Beruit looked like Berlin or Dresden post WWII. The civil war last over two decades. Protest and civil unrest is not good, but it used to be a battle zone. It may be again. But despite what Israel thinks of Hezbollah, I do not think they attacked Beirut. Hezbollah attacking Beirut makes no more sense than Israel attacking a harbor at Tel Aviv.
 
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@pnewton Nobody said they attacked Beirut. Maybe the explosion of ammonium nitrate was accidental but started/amplified by the presence of weaponry stored in the area? Maybe was just a result of gross negligence? Maybe it was some kind of ‘warning’ to Hezbollah storing weapons in the area? Nobody knows for sure. Hopefully time will tell. Even the president of Lebanon right now is keeping all the possibilities open.

www.usatoday.com

Lebanon president: Beirut explosion either due to negligence or missile, bomb

At least 10 times in 6 years, authorities from Lebanon’s customs, military, security agencies and judiciary raised alarm that a stockpile of explosive chemicals was being kept.
www.usatoday.com
 
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Yes, I will pray a rosary with my sisters for Beirut/Lebanon and all those afflicted by this explosion.

God bless you all!
 
And it’s left many people homeless, 250,000-300,000

Some of the latest news, just what’s being reported:

Clashes at the Parliament, who wouldn’t be upset?

Claim:

Fábrica de Explosivos Moçambique (FEM), a Mozambican explosives manufacturing company, told CNN that they were the ones who originally ordered the ammonium nitrate that was left at Beirut’s port for nearly seven years.

The order of ammonium nitrate was intended for manufacturing explosives for mining companies in Mozambique, the spokesperson said.

“We can confirm that yes, we did order it,” a spokesperson for FEM told CNN.
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Hezbollah’s chief, Nasrallah denies Hezbollah had any weapons or ammonium nitrate at port. That statement got a lot of snarky remarks in the comments section in the article I read. I won’t post a link.

So, yes, I did read the comments above that possibly ammonium nitrate would not have sent up a cloud like this, pink colored.
 
On the news tonight, I noticed the video of the fire before the explosion definitely had bright flashes of light through the smoke, as in, what a fireworks fire looks like. Also, they had a picture from earlier of the huge bags of fertilizer filling a warehouse double stacked. It could have easily filled a large swimming pool.
 
@pnewton @Pattylt now also an American explosive expert is telling the same thing as Mr Dynamite.

From the CNN page linked below

‘’However, experts have cautioned that the blast could have been caused by more than just ammonium nitrate.
Anthony May, a retired ATF explosives investigator for the US government, said the color of the cloud after the blast suggests there may have been other compounds involved. And Robert Baer, a former CIA operative with extensive experience in the Middle East, said “that orange ball (of fire)” indicated possible military grade explosives.’‘

 
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I also heard today that they verified with the official in Mozambique that ordered the ammonium nitrate that was being delivered to Mozambique by the Russian ship. So that part of the story seems verified. I still am leaving my options open that other explosives may have also been stored. The official in Mozambique said the ammonium nitrate was ordered for mining explosives…I believe that means the chemical is of a higher quality than used as fertilizer.

Thanks for this link! If weapons or weapon grade materials were stored there, the next question…that may never be answered …is what set it off. Heat alone can do it. That doesn’t necessarily mean it was only heat! I really want an international investigation into this. I think it’s the only way we will get any semblance of truth. President Aoun will never accept any responsibility for any of it…yet, the buck stops with him!
 
I am not concerning myself with the causes or reasons behind the blast at the moment. There are much more important things that I am focusing my attention on presently. The international probe will reveal the truth in due time. I have my own theory about what happened and why, but so does everyone in Lebanon.

There’s no hurry. The truth will come out whether next week or next month or next year. I will refrain from outlining my own suspicions as I don’t want to initiate a discussion.

I’ll just point out the obvious: the Lebanese government, which has long been a puppet of the Iranians, has been trying to cover up and downplay what happened at the port. They refused to allow a Dutch rescue team in for hours and then sent them to unimportant parts. They arrested journalists trying to get in to take photos. Men suspected of being members of a certain Iranian proxy group in Lebanon were spotted several times by many, including by arrested Lebanese journalists and the Dutch rescue team. There’s obviously a cover-up here on the part of the Iranians. Only God knows what they’ve secretly been building in this country.

The disaster is too big to cover up, however. The Lebanese political class is used to getting away with crime and corruption because Lebanon is a tiny country and no one cared before…but now the whole world’s eyes are on us. The UN will no doubt insist on an international probe as demanded by Lebanese citizens as there is ZERO chance that the Lebanese government will tell the truth. Already they’re trying to delegitimise it in the eyes of their base; the president claimed yesterday that the international probe will “dilute the truth”.

Something just doesn’t add up, and at this point everything is just speculation, so I advise everybody not to waste too much time on it. The coming days will reveal the truth. I have no doubt that there will be repercussions well into the future.
 
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I am not concerning myself with the causes or reasons behind the blast at the moment.
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Given what you offer (thank you) it seems to me that it was an explosives stockpile that was attacked to eliminate it as a threat. So, the government wants to cover up why it was there, but also people do not want to investigate who attacked it.
 
Statue of the BVM relights up after explosion:


It is an interesting watch, I don’t think it is miraculous but God works in mysterious ways.
 
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