Barbarian observes:
Wrong on both counts. First, Darwinism is not about the origin of life. Darwin never attempted to explain how life began; he just wrote that God did it. You’ve never actually studied Darwin, um?
I said, MODERN Darwinists.
That would mean guys like Punnett and Morgan and Muller. They were, some of them even more disdainful of eugenist ideas. And much more recently, Darwinians finally showed that there aren’t even any such things as biological human races.
Barbarian observes:
No. By the 1930s, that idea was dead in science. By 1871, Darwin had denounced it as evil, and by 1933, Darwinists like Punnett and Morgan had shown it was bad science.
Sorry. YouTube is not a substitute for evidence.
Barbarian on eugenics:
It’s not dead. Right wing racists like the guys in the Pioneer fund are alive and spewing their anti-science eugenics.
Legitimate, old era eugenics is dead.
The only scientifically legitimate eugenic ideas have to do with predicting the likelihood of devastating genetic disorder for couples contemplating marriage.
Barbarian observes:
Darwin denounced it as “evil.” Punnet and Morgan and Muller savaged it as an unworkable pseudoscience.
Barbarian observes:
No scientists herded his family into the gas chambers. It was just another of his lies.
Doctors, not scientists. In the entire list at Nurenburg, one scientist, who was also a doctor. That would put scientists just above nuns as participants in the Holocaust.
It is a blood libel. He is accusing the very people who denounced Hitler’s program, and is excusing the Nazis who he says were just misled by Darwin.
No one died that way. No scientists put anyone in those chambers. Why do you think Jews despise him so much?
**Anti-Evolution Film Misappropriates the Holocaust
New York, NY, April 29, 2008 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today issued the following statement regarding the controversial film Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed.
The film Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed misappropriates the Holocaust and its imagery as a part of its political effort to discredit the scientific community which rejects so-called intelligent design theory.
Hitler did not need Darwin to devise his heinous plan to exterminate the Jewish people and Darwin and evolutionary theory cannot explain Hitler’s genocidal madness.
Using the Holocaust in order to tarnish those who promote the theory of evolution is outrageous and trivializes the complex factors that led to the mass extermination of European Jewry.
The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world’s leading organization fighting anti-Semitism**
See above. Stein stabbed his own people in the back, just to get at the people he hates.
Darwin condemned the idea, and later Darwinists showed it was unscientific garbage. You might as well say that geologists want to bury people alive, because they study avalanches.
Ben Stein denies the evil that caused the Holocaust, and blames the very people who warned against it. And all for his petty ideological causes. An evil, sick little man.
His own people acknowledge it. They have denounced him for his denial of the causes of the Holocaust.
Denying God for anything is evil. However, no one with any sense thinks that accepting Darwin’s theory or his denunciation of eugenics, is denying God.
OK man, I’m not gunna go round and round here. You think what you want about Stein.
Notice that Stein’s own people, his fellow Jews, despise him for denying the cause of the Holocaust.
I understand his big picture on this whole thing,
No, you came in with no idea of the history of eugenics, or why Darwinists denounced it. You seem puzzled why the Anti-defamation League would denounce Stein for lying about the Holocaust. It’s because by blaming Darwinists and science, he was excusing the Nazis.
Despicable, all the more so, because he stabbed his own people in the back. For nothing more than a hoped-for ideological advantage.
If that won’t convince you, then nothing will.
