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crazyage3
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A new pair of glasses could be a miracle to someone that cant afford them! And remember God’s answers arent always our answers
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Maccabees
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There is no evidence that she was a practicing catholic while dabbling in occult healings whe ran off with a protestant minister during this time and married him. Doesn’t sound like something a catholic would do neither would dabbling in the occult. She may have been catholic at one time and like many lapsed catholics coined the term to her advantage but her work and ministry was never sanctioned or approved by the church.
This would be like Benny HInn claiming his ministry to be of the Orthodox faith even though he left that communions years ago.
I just love it when Catholics for a free choice uses the coinage catholic to support abortion don’t you?
Look the term catholic is used by ex-catholics all the time to describe themselves very strange but popular I find in catholics who still use the term even though they be in another church.
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HagiaSophia
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Or when Catholic nuns promote massage and healing while on a Catholic retreat - I roll me eyes and shudder.
That is a phenomenon which for the life of me I cannot grasp. I too have seen it, and never will get it.
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HagiaSophia
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When I was quite ill, I used to listen to the choirs - he has some magnificent ones and I love the songs they sing. I thought they were lovely and enjoyed the music tremendously. Then I met a musician who used to play for some of the “crusades” and he had some funny stories which I enjoyed.
Here is the way I look at it - we are all the pilgrims of the Canterbury Tales. Good, bad, stupid, intelligent, believers, doubters and skeptics. Our own church has all kinds of weird visionaries who are as nutty as fruitcakes and obtain more messages from the BVM in a week than in the last 1900 years of Christianity all together. We do not condemn nor do we expect anyone else to condemn all of Catholic belief about Mary and visionaries because we have scam artists, delusional people who desperately need attention or those who are out to plain exploit the sick, the desperate and the believing. We know that they are out there - their fraud does not a sham of miracles, cures and miraculous spiritual awakenings make.
We should then offer the same charity and forbearance to our Christian associates who have these same types among them.
We know what is is to experience persecution, scandal, corruption, bad shepherds and indifferent congregations, — why then are we surprised to find that these people flock to other faiths to do the same among them? We are a fallen, flawed and sinful humanity. It’s among us all. God will deal with the perpetrators when they meet Him.
As for the program, I thought much of it was quite unfair and biased; I thought it also had much to question, much to call the pastor to account for. I did note however, that they spent a great deal more time worrying about what Hinn did with his money rather than any spiritual shortcomings he had. Considering what media types earn these days, the expense accounts they have and the perqs they get including pretty lavish hotel and meal accomodations, I thought it a bit too self serving and over emphasized on the money end. Just my 2 :twocents:
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SyroMalankara
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What the heck???
I am a Catholic, even more I am an Eastern Catholic of the SYRIAC Tradition!! How can you say I hate Catholics??? I read that he was Lebanese, which he himself has claimed, and that he was raised Catholic.
Do you hate Orthodox, because you claim he is Orthodox??? Do you hate Armenians???
Where is your insults coming from???
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SyroMalankara
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Some evangelicals have claimed he is Catholic, maybe they never heard of Orthodoxy; also I read he went to Catholic parochial school in Israel.
No I am not anti-Catholic. I am very, very much Catholic and Traditional to boot.
No I am not anti-Catholic. I am very, very much Catholic and Traditional to boot.
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Maccabees
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Never heard that he went to catholic school considering you also claimed he was catholic and are wrong unless you can give me sources I will not consider yuour information valid. Every huckster is supposedly cathoilic on this thread but I haven’t seen any evidence of it they are either orthodox or ex-catholic. Whaterver the case Benny Hinn is not catholic in any way ok.
You keep up coming with false accusation first he’s catholic but he’s not he’s was ORthodox. Then he’s Lebaneese but he’s not he’s Palestinina now he’s goes to catholic scholl but you can’t back it up any more than your other accusation stop spreading rumors already.
You keep up coming with false accusation first he’s catholic but he’s not he’s was ORthodox. Then he’s Lebaneese but he’s not he’s Palestinina now he’s goes to catholic scholl but you can’t back it up any more than your other accusation stop spreading rumors already.
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HagiaSophia
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Michael_Thoma:
Now that you mention it I thought I saw film of him visiting his old Franciscan Catholic school on a trip to the Holy Land some time back…
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HagiaSophia
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Mac, calm thy spirit, trim thy wicks and breathe deeply.— sometimes people are simply mistaken or not quite sure - it’s not the abomination of desolation – I know we get a fair amount of cranks and nuts in the forum, but we can’t assume - I think the OP was just trying to recollect and as I posted, for some reason I thought he was not RC but I I do remember film of him visiting his school and it was a Catholic one. And I’ve always been confused as to whether he was Lebanese, or Palestinian - for some reason I seem to have herd both versions I can’t say for certain.
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Ghosty
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Well, he claims he was born in Israel to a Greek father and an Armenian mother, but both could have been Palestinians who were “incorporated” into Israel after the 1948 war, espescially if he lived in Jaffa like he says. I know that there are many Armenian Palestinians, as that was one of the places that we settled after the Genocide and there is an Armenian Quarter of Jerusalem.
Honestly though, it’s tough to get a good idea of the truth with this guy. He’s made up so much stuff, who knows what his real history is? All I know is that he says he’s Armenian, and he looks like my Armenian grandfather
Honestly though, it’s tough to get a good idea of the truth with this guy. He’s made up so much stuff, who knows what his real history is? All I know is that he says he’s Armenian, and he looks like my Armenian grandfather
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HagiaSophia
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I love to watch his changing hair styles - I have never seen a man with more different coiffures over time.All I know is that he says he’s Armenian, and he looks like my Armenian grandfather
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carol_marie
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What does it matter if he was Catholic or Orthodox? I learned in RCIA that we’re the same - just that they (Ortho) aren’t under the Pope but they are still “Catholic” as in Universal Church because we started out the same… they have valid Priests etc. So what’s the difference?
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Every couple decades comes along one of these charleton used car salesmen that the searching minions, that don’t want to look TOO HARD, prop up as a “god” and the be all - end all answer. What’s up with Hinn’s entrance to “How Great Thou Art”? PLLEEEASE!
In the eighties we had the Bakkers and Sweigarts (spellings) and well remember how “holy” THEY turned out to be!
Anyone who puts his faith in one of these guys is in for the big let down. They are money grubbing crooks who all fall eventually and take the duped with them.
Hopefully the desperately searching will wake up to the Truth that’s been standing in the room like an elephant for 2000 years. From the looks of Hinn’s packed stadiums on Dateline, I don’t think that will happen any time soon.
In the eighties we had the Bakkers and Sweigarts (spellings) and well remember how “holy” THEY turned out to be!
Anyone who puts his faith in one of these guys is in for the big let down. They are money grubbing crooks who all fall eventually and take the duped with them.
Hopefully the desperately searching will wake up to the Truth that’s been standing in the room like an elephant for 2000 years. From the looks of Hinn’s packed stadiums on Dateline, I don’t think that will happen any time soon.
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SyroMalankara
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Sorry for giving you incorrect information about freakin Benny Hinn. I am no Hinn expert. But I do have a degree in Theology from a Catholic University and I am working toward my Graduate degrees. If you had read any of my other posts, you would easily see that I am Catholic. In any case, I apologize for my misinformation.
lol, just had a thought, even his name brings division how omenace is that…
God Bless; Pray for me,
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SyroMalankara
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carol marie:
A bit of a simplistic explanation to say Catholics and Orthodox are the same. There are various differences which can be seen on this site, just ask Fr. Ambrose; he’ll tell you from the Orthodox point of view, and there are some threads from the Catholic side on this site.
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alekzander
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It’s pretty cut and dry…the guy is a crook! what more evidence do some of you need? And for those of you who don’t want to believe it…keep sending him money while he laughs all the way to the bank.Being Christ-like doesn’t mean you check your brains in at the door-get some street smarts!!
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asteroid
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Wow, people seem to be getting really grumpy that sources aren’t being quoted and are making accusations against the honesty of others. So here’s some sources.
Re - Benny Hinn’s childhood religion and where he comes from.
www.bennyhinnbiography.com says this:
Born in Israel to Greek Armenian parents, Benny and his family relocated to Canada in 1967. He received a Catholic parochial school education in Israel. Through the ministry of Merv and Merla Watson, Benny was born again in Toronto. During a Kathryn Kuhlman evangelistic outreach in 1973, Benny experienced a visitation of the Holy Spirit that led to his call to preach.
believersweb.org/view.cfm?ID=686 says this (and much more)
Costandi Hinn was born in Jaffa. He was Arabic an married Benny’s mother, an Arab from Ramallah. Therefore, Hinn is a Palestinian. He was Greek Orthodox by religion and apparently emphasizes only that. A staff member at Hinn’s Orlando Christian Center who identified himself as Steve told PFO that Hinn was neither Arab nor Jew. However, in a taped testimony, Hinn claims an Arabic heritage.
rickross.com/reference/hinn/hinn37.html says this
Benny Hinn was born Toufik Benedictus Hinn in the coastal city of Jaffa in Israel in 1952. He was one of eight children born to an Armenian mother and a Greek father. The family was Greek Orthodox. In 1968, they emigrated to Canada settling in Toronto and Benny, who by this time was a young teenager, began attending Georges Vanier High school, north of Toronto.
That’s enough - all from page one of Google responses. As for his ministry, I’m staying quiet - I wouldn’t want to touch the anointed man of God. If you know lots about Benny Hinn you’ll understand that reference, otherwise you’ll wonder what I’m on about!
Re - Benny Hinn’s childhood religion and where he comes from.
www.bennyhinnbiography.com says this:
Born in Israel to Greek Armenian parents, Benny and his family relocated to Canada in 1967. He received a Catholic parochial school education in Israel. Through the ministry of Merv and Merla Watson, Benny was born again in Toronto. During a Kathryn Kuhlman evangelistic outreach in 1973, Benny experienced a visitation of the Holy Spirit that led to his call to preach.
believersweb.org/view.cfm?ID=686 says this (and much more)
Costandi Hinn was born in Jaffa. He was Arabic an married Benny’s mother, an Arab from Ramallah. Therefore, Hinn is a Palestinian. He was Greek Orthodox by religion and apparently emphasizes only that. A staff member at Hinn’s Orlando Christian Center who identified himself as Steve told PFO that Hinn was neither Arab nor Jew. However, in a taped testimony, Hinn claims an Arabic heritage.
rickross.com/reference/hinn/hinn37.html says this
Benny Hinn was born Toufik Benedictus Hinn in the coastal city of Jaffa in Israel in 1952. He was one of eight children born to an Armenian mother and a Greek father. The family was Greek Orthodox. In 1968, they emigrated to Canada settling in Toronto and Benny, who by this time was a young teenager, began attending Georges Vanier High school, north of Toronto.
That’s enough - all from page one of Google responses. As for his ministry, I’m staying quiet - I wouldn’t want to touch the anointed man of God. If you know lots about Benny Hinn you’ll understand that reference, otherwise you’ll wonder what I’m on about!
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SyroMalankara
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where’s the Armenian connection? If both parents are Palestinian Greek Orthodox, which one is Armenian?
Now you got me peaked about this ‘anointed man of God’ bit…
Now you got me peaked about this ‘anointed man of God’ bit…
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cestusdei
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I went to a Hinn crusade. Fascinating experience. I saw a miracle. His hair. It never gets mussed up. The wave always remains. That kind of hair care costs money. No wonder he has to rob the widows and orphans.
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EddieArent
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Seriously, what makes Hinn differant then the “catholic charismatic healers?” It looks one of the same if you ask me.
Then again, that above is allowed in my diocese…but heaven forbid a Latin mass either Novus Ordo or Tridentine. I’m not really surprised. The parish hosting such a “service” has ties to Call to Action, and Orlando Direct Action (leftist group in Orlando). Not to mention horrible liturgic abuse such as laity and nuns giving homilies. To top things off I was baptized there. My parents said they did everything right, but I don’t know. My parents were immigrants at the time (maybe in the country for a few months) and I don’t want to doubt them, but this is scary stuff. Given the church’s ties to these groups I might have to seriously consider a conditional re-Baptisism if I find something fishy going on there regarding that particular life giving Sacrement.
Then again, that above is allowed in my diocese…but heaven forbid a Latin mass either Novus Ordo or Tridentine. I’m not really surprised. The parish hosting such a “service” has ties to Call to Action, and Orlando Direct Action (leftist group in Orlando). Not to mention horrible liturgic abuse such as laity and nuns giving homilies. To top things off I was baptized there. My parents said they did everything right, but I don’t know. My parents were immigrants at the time (maybe in the country for a few months) and I don’t want to doubt them, but this is scary stuff. Given the church’s ties to these groups I might have to seriously consider a conditional re-Baptisism if I find something fishy going on there regarding that particular life giving Sacrement.
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