Berkeley council tells Marines to leave

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“I believe in the Code Pink cause. The Marines don’t belong here, they shouldn’t have come here, and they should leave,” said Berkeley Mayor Tom Bates.
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Can we just let this city become another country and then stop giving them the perks that come from being an American City? When I was stationed in California in the mid 60’s it was not safe to go near Berkeley in uniform because of the riots. Sadly the people that want the perks of freedom to tell the Marines to get out only have this privilege because of those that serve in the Military. 🤷
 
I’d be more than happy to let them become the city-state of Berkeley. Yet these hypocrites would never do that. That’s because they realize just how much they need the Marines and the rest of our military. They’re shameful cowards who talk big and then do very little in the end.
 
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**Hey-hey, ho-ho, the Marines in Berkeley have got to go. That’s the message from the Berkeley City Council, which voted 6-3 Tuesday night to tell the U.S. Marines that its Shattuck Avenue recruiting station “is not welcome in the city, and if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders.”
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In addition, the council voted to explore enforcing its law prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation against the Marines because of the military’s don’t ask, don’t tell policy. And it officially encouraged the women’s peace group Code Pink to impede the work of the Marines in the city by protesting in front of the station.
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In a separate item, the council voted 8-1 to give Code Pink a designated parking space in front of the recruiting station once a week for six months and a free sound permit for protesting once a week from noon to 4 p.m.
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How about Congress declares Berkeley outside the protection of the US military?

The Code Pink thing gave me an idea though. If you live someplace with a friendly city council, see if they’ll give Birthright or some other pro-life org a designated parking spot in front of Planned Parenthood.
 
Then if there’s ever a disaster or attack at or near Berkeley, the National Guard should just say “Sorry dudes, you said you didn’t need us, so take care of it yourself. Later dudes”
 
Hey-hey, ho-ho, the Marines in Berkeley have got to go.That’s the message from the Berkeley City Council, which voted 6-3 Tuesday night to tell the U.S. Marines that its Shattuck Avenue recruiting station “is not welcome in the city, and if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders.”

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As much as this disgusts me it does not surprise me in the least. Many ‘Americans’ (I use the term loosely, as they would have it) fail to appreciate the sacrifice of the soldier.

Many of the people who support this type of demonstration take their freedom for granted. They don’t realize that someone else is insuring that freedom daily. Often, when told, they say they would rather not have that protection. I like to remind them that no one forces them to live in America.😛

I wish I could start a counter demonstration across from code pink. Maybe I would set up a large screen tv and show D-Day footage.

Really, one of those women was 90 years old. How could someone who lived through WWII NOT appreciate the American military?
 
What do you expect from a ragtag melange of filthy hippies and burnouts living on trust funds and tenure?
 
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WASHINGTON — U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., says the City of Berkeley, Calif., no longer deserves federal money.
DeMint was angered after learning that the Berkeley City Council voted this week to tell the U.S. Marine Corps to remove its recruiting station from the city’s downtown.

“This is a slap in the face to all brave service men and women and their families,” DeMint said in a prepared statement. “The First Amendment gives the City of Berkeley the right to be idiotic, but from now on they should do it with their own money.”

“If the city can’t show respect for the Marines that have fought, bled and died for their freedom, Berkeley should not be receiving special taxpayer-funded handouts,” he added.

DeMint said he will draft legislation to rescind any earmarks dedicated for the City of Berkeley in the recently passed appropriations bill — which his office tallied to value about $2.1 million. He said that any money taken back would be transferred to the Marines.

DeMint’s office provided a preliminary list of items that would be subject to his proposal:

— $975,000 for the University of California at Berkeley, for the Matsui Center for Politics and Public Service, which may include establishing an endowment, and for cataloguing the papers of Congressman Robert Matsui.
— $750,000 for the Berkeley/Albana ferry service.
— $243,000 for the Chez Panisse Foundation, for a school lunch initiative to integrate lessons about wellness, sustainability and nutrition into the academic curriculum.
— $94,000 for a Berkeley public safety interoperability program.
— $87,000 for the Berkeley Unified School District, nutrition education program.
 
mschrank said:
What do you expect from a ragtag melange of filthy hippies and burnouts living on trust funds and tenure?
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When I see posts like this, I sometimes wonder if I am on a Catholic message board, or on the Rush Limbaugh or Mike Savage message board.

Okay, so assuming that all of Berkeley was a melange of “filthy hippies and burnouts living on trust funds and tenure” (which isn’t true by the way), so what is your point? That they are less deserving of God’s love than us God-fearing Christians? That God desires that us to scorn, ridicule and hold our fellow man in complete and utter contempt? I just wonder what use or purpose such hateful and derogatory comments serve. I just can’t see what positive or constructive effect they have on the world.

Passionately disagree with the action of the Berkeley City Council- I do. But I don’t think it’s a good idea to let rhetoric or emotions get so out of control the you dehumanize the 100,000+ people of Berkeley with derogatory stereotypes.

By the way, I have several good friends who live in Berkeley and I can tell you first hand that aside from all the stereotypes, there actually are good, moral hardworking people who live in Berkeley.
 
Save your breath, Thomas B. I gave up long ago trying to convince people of the basic decency of the residents here in the Bay Area. Those who have never lived here make all kinds of odious blanket assumptions about us based on a selective reading of sensationalistic news items. If someone thinks that California is the ‘land of fruits and nuts’, we are not going to convince them otherwise by argument alone. They have made up their minds and do not want to hear anything that contradicts their smug feelings of superiority about themselves. Far better to just ignore them and engage some intelligent people with profound questions than to keep beating our heads against a metaphorical wall.
 
My husband grew up in the Bay Area. He refuses to go back, even to retire. When given the opportuntity in the 70s for a complete ride at either UoP or CAL-Berkeley, he wisely chose Stockton. Although a descendent of the cannery ladies and the miners and fishermen of Black Diamond (Martinez, Pittsburg), he bears the title"goatroper" proudly.

And Alice Waters can go fund her own foundation with her own money!
 
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My husband grew up in the Bay Area. He refuses to go back, even to retire. When given the opportuntity in the 70s for a complete ride at either UoP or CAL-Berkeley, he wisely chose Stockton. Although a descendent of the cannery ladies and the miners and fishermen of Black Diamond (Martinez, Pittsburg), he bears the title"goatroper" proudly.

And Alice Waters can go fund her own foundation with her own money!
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Not that it will do any good, but I wrote the mayor and then called the mayor to register my disgust and then wrote my congressman asking him to sponsor a resolution supporting the troops and condemning the actions of berkly. I encourage you to do the same.
 
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Save your breath, Thomas B. I gave up long ago trying to convince people of the basic decency of the residents here in the Bay Area. Those who have never lived here make all kinds of odious blanket assumptions about us based on a selective reading of sensationalistic news items. If someone thinks that California is the ‘land of fruits and nuts’, we are not going to convince them otherwise by argument alone. They have made up their minds and do not want to hear anything that contradicts their smug feelings of superiority about themselves. Far better to just ignore them and engage some intelligent people with profound questions than to keep beating our heads against a metaphorical wall.
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Yes, that may be right. But it is sad and really highlights what I think is the single most challenge facing our Church (and probably other church’s for that matter) and the US in general. I would be inclined to say intolerance, but that isn’t the right word, it really is what appears to be an increasing lack of charity towards our fellow man.

It seems like over the past two decades, people have been more inclined to put each other into boxes - liberal leftie, rightie conservative and adopt these hardline attitudes to each other. I can pull up the Rush Limbaugh site right now and guarantee you that there will be extensive comments about how ridiculous and crazy the Democratic nominees for president are just as I can pull up the Huffington Post and see how looney those conservatives are. I guess labelling people and putting them into boxes is an easy way to think about issues. The problem is, is that it can also be dehumanizing. We don’t associate with people in other boxes, except occassionally to tell them how wrong or misguided they are, and become further and further entrenched into our own views.

My view of the world is that we all have something we can learn from each other - liberal, conservative, and moderate, where I place myself. It’s fine to hold strong views, defend and debate them with others, but always keep a charitable attitude towards others and respect them as living and breathing souls who were also created by, and who are loved by God. Some of us were raised in good Catholic households and thoroughly understand the teachings of the Church, but so greater the obligation to reach out to others who don’t because it is but for the grace of God go we. (By the way, I’m not a cradle Catholic, but a convert).

Anyway, know this post is slightly off topic but I always react whenever I see people casting aspersions on others based on where they live, or whatver views they may hold. Disagree with an individual’s or a body’s actions, but never discard them.
 
Thomas_B said:
Yes, that may be right. But it is sad and really highlights what I think is the single most challenge facing our Church (and probably other church’s for that matter) and the US in general. I would be inclined to say intolerance, but that isn’t the right word, it really is what appears to be an increasing lack of charity towards our fellow man.

It seems like over the past two decades, people have been more inclined to put each other into boxes - liberal leftie, rightie conservative and adopt these hardline attitudes to each other. I can pull up the Rush Limbaugh site right now and guarantee you that there will be extensive comments about how ridiculous and crazy the Democratic nominees for president are just as I can pull up the Huffington Post and see how looney those conservatives are. I guess labelling people and putting them into boxes is an easy way to think about issues. The problem is, is that it can also be dehumanizing. We don’t associate with people in other boxes, except occassionally to tell them how wrong or misguided they are, and become further and further entrenched into our own views.

My view of the world is that we all have something we can learn from each other - liberal, conservative, and moderate, where I place myself. It’s fine to hold strong views, defend and debate them with others, but always keep a charitable attitude towards others and respect them as living and breathing souls who were also created by, and who are loved by God. Some of us were raised in good Catholic households and thoroughly understand the teachings of the Church, but so greater the obligation to reach out to others who don’t because it is but for the grace of God go we. (By the way, I’m not a cradle Catholic, but a convert).

Anyway, know this post is slightly off topic but I always react whenever I see people casting aspersions on others based on where they live, or whatver views they may hold. Disagree with an individual’s or a body’s actions, but never discard them.
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I lived in the area for a few years in the mid 60’s. I met many descent people that tended to stay in the background and never say anything about the more vocal population (I’m being PC). My opinion of the majority is that they are silent and stay that way because they do not want to “make waves” or become targets of the vocal population.

I think the term “silent majority” is very apt for those that live in the Bay area.
 
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