Best Parenting Advice You've Been Given

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Unless of course the one offering is just being generous, and the one it being offered to is slightly neurotic.

Tom: care for a mint?

Harry: why?! :confused: do I need one?

(I’ve been part of this conversation.)
 
I was concerned about that. But the cell line used for the vaccine originate from a baby aborted over 50 years ago.

Accepting the vaccine would not be direct participation with that abortion.
 
When my son was just born, my mom told me that my husband and I would (and could) make our own decisions about how to do things, and that I don’t need to feel like I have to take anyone’s advice, not even hers.

I mean, that should be an obvious one, but there’s so much “advice” about breastfeeding, sleep training (or not), clothing, etc. that for my mom to say that I didn’t have to feel obligated to do what my parents did or what everyone else seems to do a nice reminder.
 
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The vaccines below were developed using either the WI-38 or the MRC-5 cell strains.
  • Hepatitis A vaccines [VAQTA/Merck, Havrix/GlaxoSmithKline, and part of Twinrix/GlaxoSmithKline]
  • Rubella vaccine [MERUVAX II/Merck, part of MMR II/Merck, and ProQuad/Merck]
  • Varicella (chickenpox) vaccine [Varivax/Merck, and part of ProQuad/Merck]
  • Zoster (shingles) vaccine [Zostavax/Merck]
  • Adenovirus Type 4 and Type 7 oral vaccine [Barr Labs] *
  • Rabies vaccine [IMOVAX/Sanofi Pasteur] *
 
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But, they no longer are from what I can tell. The fact that they were originally developed using fetal cells is now a moot point. Many original medical treatments and drugs were developed by unethical means yet we continue to use the knowledge while condemning the original process.
 
Pattylt said:
Many original medical treatments and drugs were developed by unethical means yet we continue to use the knowledge while condemning the original process.
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Perhaps this is best on another thread.
Using a stem cell line is different from using knowledge.

A stem cell line is a direct physical product harvested from the abortion.
Knowledge may be obtained through unethical means, but the knowledge itself is not a product of it.
 
Final comment.

We are no longer using fetal stem cells. I thought none were but doc thought there was one that still did. So, I can see opposition to that ONE.
 
dochawk said:
I’ll ask when I see her next week; I forget.
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I’m actually in her living room; they’re all in bed here on EST, while my body is still on PST . . .

She has not found an ethical strain of the Rubella vaccine.

Apparently chicken pox and, oh, nuts, I forget, but one other lack a strain in the US, but there is a Japanese variant from monkey cells, and the same for another fairly minor one.

In all seriousness, if anyone can actually find a US source for either, she would very much want it. The has put considerable effort into finding one, and has found a couple that she used that were quite difficult.
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I was concerned about that. But the cell line used for the vaccine originate from a baby aborted over 50 years ago.

Accepting the vaccine would not be direct participation with that abortion.
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Reasonable and pious people can reach opposite conclusions on this: the modern classic version of the same problem is whether we should use the data from the Nazi hypothermia research.

I don’t reach the same conclusion she does, but I can hardly fault it.
 
The Vatican’s Pontifical Academy for Life issued a statement in 2005 saying that, though it is wrong to make vaccines using aborted fetal tissue, and that such practices should no longer be employed, it is acceptable to use vaccines developed from abortions that were carried out decades ago, because immunizations play a vital role in protecting life by preventing illness and death.

I saw no exceptions to any current vaccines. I just wondered if their was one exception but am not finding it…it may be my google foo skilz are lacking. So, the argument regarding fetal cells seems to be a moot point.
As the grandmother of a micropremie who had to wait until her immune system could handle vaccinations, my daughter and I were terrified to take her in public until she could be vaccinated. Any of the vaccine preventable diseases would have been deadly to her. I understand anti vaxers have their reasons but they are based on emotion and very disputed science. It’s basically an argument of the risk of one vs. the risk of many and I understand…sort of…those not willing to risk their one child. If the risks were more serious then I could perhaps find more peace with it. But all current research shows the risk is minuscule, the benefits enormous and there is as much risk of the injection site getting infected than anything else but that isn’t the risk anti vaxers are worrying about.

It breaks my heart when a kid contacts a preventable disease because their parents were afraid of autism!
 
Teach them they can come to you about anything and let the small things slide on occasion.
If they are to scared to tell you about the small things they will not tell you about the big things.
 
Le_Crouton said:
“Don’t get married and don’t have kids”
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My brothers-in-law both gave me that bit of advice before my husband and I were married. I ignored them and 18 years and six children later, I’m very happy that I did.
 
TheLittleLady said:
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Emeraldlady:
Never turn down a breath mint.
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They are all good, but, this one is so important! If someone offers you a mint, know they are making a very gracious suggestion!!!
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To be fair, sometimes a banana is just a banana. I’m the sort of person who if I were having a mint would likely offer you one just to be polite. Doesn’t mean you have bad breath!

At the same time I dont refuse them - ever!
 
It just happened to work out that I was at home when my kids hopped off the school bus and ran indoors to tell me about their day, 15 miniutes recounting this and that.I found on the days that I wasn’t able to be there and listen for that 15 minutes they didn’t really want to talk about it and the answer was ‘alright’.
 
Le_Crouton said:
Those are few and far in between
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Thank God, that has not been my experience in life and I have had the wonderful example of strong, Catholic marriages. Even the two brothers-in-law not who gave me such bad advice when I was saying my husband have been married for 28 and 25 years each.

I’m sorry that you’ve had experiences and examples that have left you so cynical about marriage and parenting.
 
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VMy experience also. Everything was shared in the first half hour, as they enjoyed their after-school treats, but if I missed that time slot, answers were minimal.

However they haven’t stopped sharing.
In their forties now, I get weekly hour long calls from the youngest, almost daily shorter calls or texts from the eldest, and regular short bulletins from the middle one. Two live three days road travel away. The downside is, one day I’ll die, and they’ll probably take it hard, and I don’t really want to live to 120 as my eldest granddaughter begs. I was essentially mother to her also after her mother’s early abandonment of her.
I wonder sometimes if I did something wrong. Did I overdo the mother thing?

No marital advice from my mother as she died before any of us met our spouses.
Except, “You cannot change a man. You can only influence him.”

No parenting advice, only example, and as I was the second-eldest of nine surviving of twelve children there was plenty of that.
Perhaps the most compelling memory is of Mum trying not to laugh whilst also being firm,
“I may be laughing, but I still mean what I say!” It’s okay to be your natural self with your children so long as you have their best interests at heart.
 
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