Between Brock Turner and Brett Kavanaugh, when do girls matter?

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humbleseeker said:
So if we are weighing the evidence, it’s one page taken from a 17 yr olds high school yearbook against 35 yrs of public service
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35 years of public service are laudable. But they are not exculpatory if he indeed did what is alleged.
 
Yes, tell others not to speculate. Do as I say, not as I do. A high school year book, big deal.
 
Who gave the polygraph? They are not permissable in a court of law. I have heard of cases where people passed polygraphs and evidence later proved them guilty. Polygraphs are not reliable.
 
dvdjs said:
35 years of public service are laudable. But they are not exculpatory if he indeed did what is alleged.
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Yes, very laudable. But what a shame if it’s all ruined by one false allegation. No speculation on my part, just saying I’d hate to carry that on my conscience.
 
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Polygraphs are basically junk science. They’re worse than unreliable.
 
dvdjs said:
35 years of public service are laudable.
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It more than laudable. It show something about his character. If he has some abnormal attachment to booze and/or sex don’t you think it would have surfaced in the last 35 years? He has been through six fbi background check. His coworkers all vouched for his character. There have been no complaints in the workplace, no dwi, no drunk and disorderly tickets, etc.,etc.,etc…

If he had a disordered view of women and booze it would have show somewhere.
 
dvdjs said:
The problem with this standard is that allows everyone to do it once.
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So what you are saying is that any misdemeanor issues when you are not an adult (IT) should always be a career death sentence.

There is nothing to prosecute him on, since it’s well past the statute of limitations.
 
I have to assume you have led a virtuous life from birth. Nothing in your past especially as a teen that you regret? In you opinion,unless one has been a saint all of their lives ,one misdeed wipes out all the good actions? Christ sat with sinners.
 
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gracepoole said:
Speaking only for myself, I’m not “against Kavanaugh.” But I have serious concerns about someone who sexually assaulted someone else being given a lifetime position in one of our government’s most important organizations.
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Does it matter who specifically that “someone” is?

Or is any pro-life man acceptable as a target for an accusation?

False rape accusations are common … yet the women making those false rape accusations are rarely punished. Look it up.
 
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humbleseeker said:
But what a shame if it’s all ruined by one false allegation.
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It cannot be ruined by a false allegation. He is not subject to the loss of hiks curent position unless the allegation were proven true. If there is sufficient doubt, he might not get approved for the SCOTUS, but one can hardly call that ruin.
 
Jeanne_S said:
I have to assume you have led a virtuous life from birth. Nothing in your past especially as a teen that you regret? In you opinion,unless one has been a saint all of their lives ,one misdeed wipes out all the good actions? Christ sat with sinners.
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As a Catholic, I believe that all sin. As an Eastern Catholic I profess that among sinners I am the first.
I also believe in responsibility, repentance, confession, penance, making amends, reconciliation, and theosis.
I do not believe, however, that any of that eliminates guilt under the law - even as it would likely mitigate the sentence imposed if guilt were determined.
 
Yeah, after that whole business with the fake rape accusation in Rolling Stone against a fraternity, not to mention the lacrosse players fake rape accusation some years ago, I need to see some actual evidence when some woman starts making accusations. Especially if they involve some purported drunk party.

Telling your therapist a 30-year-old story with your husband backing you up isn’t credible evidence.
 
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In the event that this actually occurs as the accuser allegees,they were both minors so this won’t go anywhere regardless.Other than the sad fact that a good upstanding man’s reputation has been sullied all for the sake of political means.
To deny that this is anything other than that is having one’s head in the sand.
 
Theo520 said:
So what you are saying is that any misdemeanor issues when you are not an adult (IT) should always be a career death sentence.
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i have said no such thing.

First, what is this talk of a misdemeanor? The incident, as described, is an felony under Maryland law.
Secondly, the hiring process would allow for the hiring authorities to decide whether some offense, in light of its gravity, the actions taken to make up for it, and the subsequent behavior, presents a fatal impediment for the position in question. It may also be the case that prompt action from someone even just shy of 18, would have led, ultimately, to a record that was sealed or even expunged. Absent that, it would remain part of the record that whose significance is properly discussed and assessed.
 
Here is what matters. Can she prove it? To say that he needs to prove that he is innocent is setting the precedent that you’re guilty until proven innocent. This is becoming all the common with liberal/leftist/statist/progressive/etc in today political enviroment. They want him to prove that something didnt happen. She just has to make the claim. BTW, I think he should be confirmed. There is no way to prove what she is saying is truthful. I dont think he will be, but since we are going to keep the senate we will get two more during this term and Trump’s Next term.
 
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Jeanne_S said:
n the event that this actually occurs as the accuser allegees,they were both minors so this won’t go anywhere regardless.Other than the sad fact that a good upstanding man’s reputation has been sullied all for the sake of political means.
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Astonishing. If it turns out that this actually occurred as the accuser alleges, then Kavanaugh has lied, under oath IIRC, about his actions in the matter. That is neither good nor upstanding. His reputation will be what it should be as he is removed from the bench and disbarred.
 
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False accusation of rape.


Defendant was falsely accused and false convicted.

google youtube false accusation rape
 
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