Bill Clinton Went to Jeffrey Epstein's Island With 2 'Young Girls', Virginia Giuffre Says In Unsealed Document

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Nice photo of Bill and Hillary in the OP.

Actually, Hillary Clinton is looking radiant these days. Saw her on MSNBC a few days ago.
 
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Ureña referred Newsweek to a statement Clinton released in July 2019, where he issued the same denial. “He’s not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade, and has never been to Little St. James Island, Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico, or his residence in Florida,” the statement read.
She told Scarola that Clinton stayed in Epstein’s home with the other women and that she had a recollection of Epstein telling her that Clinton “owes me favors.”
We have yet to hear Ghislaine Maxwell’s testimony and her hidden tapes. I just this woman stays alive.
Ghislaine Maxwell Told Virginia Giuffre She Would Be Traded in Before Turning 17, Court Documents Show
 
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Bankruptcy filings and creditor lists are public record. Generally speaking, proceedings are too. A record of Deutchebank’s motivations and possible shenanigans might not be an open record. A negotiated settlement probably wouldn’t be.
 
Trump, Clinton, Prince Andrew, I’m sure they’re all involved. Even Bill Gates visited the Epsteins, but it’s hard to imagine any scandal involving him on that front.
 
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ce Trump on the island then… Sheesh, the differences between Clinton and Trump’s association with Epstein h
Are you saying that there’s proof that Clinton was on the island, while there’s no evidence that Trump ever was? I said that Trump’s friendship with Epstein and his boast that they have a mutual love for beautiful women was disconcerting…I haven’t researched it enough to know with certainty that either of them were on the island.
 
Financial scandal perhaps, but a sordid child pornography case, no, he’s not the type.
 
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Trump has no known motivation not to preserve her life. Of course, there are plenty of Deep Staters still around.
 
Ones who regularly attend Mass say, weekly, have a lot better stats.
Not quite to topic, but my mother was fond of saying that the gap was not so much abortion supporting Catholics to pro -life…it was a gap between regular Mass attending Catholics and not regular attenders.
 
She’s being held in Trump’s Justice Dept, so she’ll be fine unless someone high up in Trump’s organization doesn’t want her to be fine
Not necessarily, these people have their way. I am surprised she is still alive.
 
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Not necessarily, these people have their way. I am surprised she is still alive.
You have good reason to be, considering the family she is part of. Her father’s death, for example, still remains a mystery, although those who worked for him (like me) are convinced it was suicide.
 
I’m pretty partisan but I would think exposing this type of stuff would be something that would bridge both sides.
It’s not really about not being partisan. We all have opinions. It’s about having the intellectual integrity to not reject or accept evidence based on whether or not it’s “good” for your side.

That’s what I think we’ve lost as a society. We don’t ask “is this true based on the available evidence?” We ask “does this make my opponent look bad? If so, I believe it. If it makes my team look bad, then it’s false.”
 
Well, anything’s possible, especially these days. But it’s not likely.
 
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Both of those facts don’t exactly help his case, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Bill indulged in a bit of the Cheesy Pizza back in the day.
That’s a pretty serious thing to insinuate on the basis of “he’s a nerd.”
 
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CS Lewis had something in one of his books about wishing your enemies worse than they are. Seems applicable.
 
The list is long… They all deny it. You have all these young girls saying they have been raped at 13 and up and yet not one of these men claim they flew on planes when they have the airplane logs. I am not saying they are all guilty but some are. I just hope Ghislaine Maxwell agrees to spill the beans in exchange for a plea deal.
They include: the late scientist Marvin Minsky, modeling scout Jean-Luc Brunel, former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, 71, former Sen. George Mitchell, 85, Hyatt hotels magnate Tom Pritzker, 69, and prominent hedge fund manager Glenn Dubin, 62. Giuffre has previously identified Epstein’s lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, 80, and Prince Andrew, 59, as two of the people with whom she had sex.
 
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I understand you’re not saying “he did it” but even saying “but it wouldn’t surprise me if he did” is too far when we’re talking about something as heinous as child pornography when you’re basing it on “cause he’s a nerd.”
 
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Yet many Republicans glorify this in Trump, demonstrating a clear hypocrisy and causing the pro-choice crowd to question the sincerity of those that are pro-life.
Hardly. This thread isn’t on Trump. We could get started on Biden as well.
 
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