Bill would require ultrasound before abortion

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The bill being offered or the ultrasound?..

If you are asking about the ultrsound then it would be either the person’s Insurance, The state, the Fed gov., the person paying for the abortion consult … Any and all of the above …the same people paying for all the abortions currently …

One wonders why you ask … If it saves a life its a worthy expense
I ask because I don’t think it’s fair for a women who can pay for an ultrasound to be allowed to have an abortion (if she chooses) and the woman who can’t afford it be told that she can’t have one. This kind of “set up” only affect poor women. That’s not right and it won’t pass.
 
Good for Tennessee, it’s interesting seeing folks from the high abortion rate states being so critical, who cares what they do in Tennessee??

Are 65% of black babies being aborted in Tennessee like in NYC? Are black babies 5 times more likely to be aborted?

Are the critics of this bill, Obama’s and Democratic Party’s Hollywood and Beverly Hills elite doing so??
 
No brainer.
:hmmm: Tempting, but no. Substituting a lobotomy
  • might save lives and
  • be less destructive than abortion
  • but let’s just keep it to mandatory ultrasounds for now - on our way to making the crime illegal (again). 😉
The idea is that seeing the truth about their babies’ existence will cause many mothers to be life givers instead of life takers. Additionally, the ultrasounds can help real doctors to chart the best path of real health care for both their patients until the babies are born.

PS: I knew what you meant SunnyslopeIII. < But if that was my whole post instead … :yawn:
 
Whoever is paying for the abortion
Why should someone exercising what our Supreme Court has decided is their Constitutional Rights be forced to undergo an unnecessary procedure and then have to pay for it?

The state should pay for it.
 
Why should someone exercising what our Supreme Court has decided is their Constitutional Rights be forced to undergo an unnecessary procedure and then have to pay for it?

The state should pay for it.
The states has all sorts requirements for medical clinics and medical procedures. The law has been upheld in other states-why are those who profess to be pro-choice so afraid that it be an informed choice?
 
:hmmm: Tempting, but no. Substituting a lobotomy
  • might save lives and
  • be less destructive than abortion
  • but let’s just keep it to mandatory ultrasounds for now - on our way to making the crime illegal (again). 😉
The idea is that seeing the truth about their babies’ existence will cause many mothers to be life givers instead of life takers. Additionally, the ultrasounds can help real doctors to chart the best path of real health care for both their patients until the babies are born.

PS: I knew what you meant SunnyslopeIII. < But if that was my whole post instead … :yawn:
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The states has all sorts requirements for medical clinics and medical procedures. The law has been upheld in other states-why are those who profess to be pro-choice so afraid that it be an informed choice?
States having an interest in regulating medical practices and facilities makes sense. If you are going to do a), you must have facilities and doctors that can perform a) safely.

This isn’t that. It is an unnecessary procedure. If the state is going to require it, they should pay for it. I’m not even arguing against that the procedure should be required, just who is going to pay for it.
 
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States having an interest in regulating medical practices and facilities makes sense. If you are going to do a), you must have facilities and doctors that can perform a) safely.

This isn’t that. It is an unnecessary procedure. If the state is going to require it, they should pay for it. I’m not even arguing against that the procedure should be required, just who is going to pay for it.
it should be paid for the same way all medical procedures are paid for. There is not some special exemption that applies only to abortion thatv requires the state to pay for procedures that others think are not necessary
 
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it should be paid for the same way all medical procedures are paid for. There is not some special exemption that applies only to abortion thatv requires the state to pay for procedures that others think are not necessary
Sure it is. It’s unnecessary for the procedure that is going to follow. It’s not like I have to get an ultrasound to get a cavity filled. The medical profession has established that it is not medically necessary to have an ultrasound before having an abortion, so if the state requires that additional procedure, they must pay for it.
 
Sure it is. It’s unnecessary for the procedure that is going to follow. It’s not like I have to get an ultrasound to get a cavity filled. The medical profession has established that it is not medically necessary to have an ultrasound before having an abortion, so if the state requires that additional procedure, they must pay for it.
No court is held so. Perhaps those who are so adamant about women being allowed to kill their children should chip in cover the cost of the ultrasounds
 
Sure it is. It’s unnecessary for the procedure that is going to follow. It’s not like I have to get an ultrasound to get a cavity filled. The medical profession has established that it is not medically necessary to have an ultrasound before having an abortion, so if the state requires that additional procedure, they must pay for it.
But before you get a cavity filled, you have to have a check up, you might end up having procedures done that don’t directly affect the Dentist knowing you have a cavity.
 
The State has every right to regulate this or at least, it is something the Supreme Court can decide if a case should come up.

SCOTUS decided a right to abortion, they didn’t decide on variations of abortion such as “forced abortions”.
 
No court is held so. Perhaps those who are so adamant about women being allowed to kill their children should chip in cover the cost of the ultrasounds
They have? Can you provide the case information?
 
The State has every right to regulate this or at least, it is something the Supreme Court can decide if a case should come up.

SCOTUS decided a right to abortion, they didn’t decide on variations of abortion such as “forced abortions”.
THE court has already ruled that ultrasounds can be required
 
But before you get a cavity filled, you have to have a check up, you might end up having procedures done that don’t directly affect the Dentist knowing you have a cavity.
Right. The medical profession has decided that it is necessary to have a checkup before getting a cavity filled and they have also decided an ultrasound is unnecessary before an abortion.
 
You are asking me to prove a negative. How can I provide case information on a ruling I stated has never been made ?
Oh, my bad. I misread that. So, no court has provided that this is Constitutional. Well, in that case, I think it is likely to be shot down as unconstitutional, even by many judges who would find Roe v. Wade as an incorrect ruling.
 
Evidently District Courts have consistently ruled that you cannot require an ultrasound and thus far the Supreme Court has declined to hear the case.
 
Evidently District Courts have consistently ruled that you cannot require an ultrasound and thus far the Supreme Court has declined to hear the case.
So it is unconstitutional. That’s too bad. I was a little excited when I misread what you said.

I wonder if it would be unconstitutional if the state paid for it. Probably, but maybe not as it would not impose a financial burden on the mother.
 
Right. The medical profession has decided that it is necessary to have a checkup before getting a cavity filled and they have also decided an ultrasound is unnecessary before an abortion.
Medical Profession doesn’t regulate State Laws.
 
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