A “public option” is no small thing, it requires the Govt to establish a complete network of hospitals and clinics to deliver your public care.
You couldn’t find them? Why should I double-post on the same thread? They were already posted here on this thread. 2 different posts. 6 links total. A lot of reading though as I said back then if anyone was truly interested. Things may not always be the way we imagine simply based on our own personal experiences. It’s not always so black and white that the US healthcare system is so wonderful in comparison of others. But I am sure the debate and disagreement will continue. But I’m realistic nothing I post or say is going to change the minds of conservatives here about their views on healthcare and visa versa. We shall simply have to disagree.
I don’t care if it is no small thing. God doesn’t call us only to small things and certainly not when it comes to the sick. We don’t have to stop at small when we can strive toward something so much bigger.
You can think all you want and this is something we actually might agree on. But also as someone who has struggled up and down with weight all of his life, I know how difficult it can be. Besides everything OraLabora explained to you that makes things not always so simple.
I don’t believe anyone here or even n the nation as a whole ,objects to making sure the least among us is cared for re health issues.The objection is in the overall government control of all our healthcare. Of course what it boils down to is the only way a national healthcare entitlement will work is to pass the costs onto the healthier citizens by mandating they comply with a product and service they may or may not need.Additionally this tired argument that is is only the poor who aren’t having their needs met is a fallacy,insomuch as the numbers of uninsured includes those simply choosing not to be,inbetween coverage,young adults etc.
Right. You should have reminded them this past week as bill after bill was being voted on.Remember it needed to be passed before we the people could know what was in it! This is shameful and UnAmerician!
VA is well-funded? That’s a matter of opinion. Been there with my dad.
Interestingly, the country that ranks the highest in the study by Christopher Murray reported on in The Washington Post is Andorra. Andorra doesn’t have single payer: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andorra
I agree that the only way for healthcare to be a universal right is for government to be involved and healthier citizens must participate to spread the cost around. And we’ve tried for profit companies being involved in the controlling our healthcare and that hasn’t worked too well. Talk about closed doors. Mitch McConnell had one.I don’t believe anyone here or even n the nation as a whole ,objects to making sure the least among us is cared for re health issues.The objection is in the overall government control of all our healthcare. Of course what it boils down to is the only way a national healthcare entitlement will work is to pass the costs onto the healthier citizens by mandating they comply with a product and service they may or may not need.Additionally this tired argument that is is only the poor who aren’t having their needs met is a fallacy,insomuch as the numbers of uninsured includes those simply choosing not to be,inbetween coverage,young adults etc.
The ACA was passed behind closed doors,literally.Remember it needed to be passed before we the people could know what was in it! This is shameful and UnAmerician!
Health care as a universal right is not sustainable unless contributing to it according to ability is a universal duty. It does not drop out of the sky; we cannot have something for nothing. When it seems to some of us we can, we’ll find that too many people squander it.
The nation declared its independence 241 yrs ago this mo. At this pace the least and all of us are going to be dead and the world might even have come to an end before we figure it out.
Surely you know the difference.
States rights that is where this debate should begin and end.Not on the federal level
Tell that to the Pope. Not me. But I don’t think neither he nor I think it doesn’t come without cost. No doubt it will be a huge and expensive undertaking to ensure healthcare as a right for all.
And then you risk having some states with healthcare being a universal right as Pope Francis says it is and other states where it may not be.
Always conviene t to invoke the Pope when it fits into an argument.Sounds warm and fuzzy but not realistic,pie in the sky thinking .Let each state decide the path they want to persue re healthcare,why else do we have governors if the federal government is going to control everything?
In Canada, we have universal health care that is a single-payer system. However what we really have are 10 single-payer systems, as health care is a provincial jurisdiction. The feds set standards of accessibility and portability, and provide subsidies, but each province manages their health affairs separately according to local priorities.
Good luck in abolishing the U.S. Department of Health
The Pope has only said that health care is a basic human right. He hasn’t dictated to any state on how to best carry out that right. He only wants everyone to have access to affordable care, with nobody left out because of economic reasons, pre-existing conditions, and the like.
Conservatives agree our healthcare costs are too high, if only reducing those costs was the focus rather than giving more people free coverage without reducing delivery costs.