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Karin
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what happened to all of these strong moral men that I keep hearing about?
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buffalo
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Karin said:
They are around. But get a bunch of guys together and observe their language and what they are talking about. Now if a women walks in and shows her disgust they will honor her, if she joins in it will continue.
If a women shows she does not respect herself men won’t either. If she does respect herself, so will men.
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Karin
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But this should not matter to a moral man…either way he should respect the woman…otherwise he is not a moral man.
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buffalo
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Karin said:
A moral man is still a sinner. He can fail. Men do not respect women who do not respect themselves. This is reality.
You claim to be a moral woman, will you respect an immoral man?
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Karin
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True we are all sinners… And a moral man should not be hanging out with immoral woman,…if you are moral why associate with someone that may make you do things that you do not agree with??
Nope…
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buffalo
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Karin said:True we are all sinners… And a moral man should not be hanging out with immoral woman,…if you are moral why associate with someone that may make you do things that you do not agree with??
Nope…
Living in the real world one come’s in contact with all sorts of people every day. Sometimes you are in settings not of your doing, in the workplace and yes even at a Church function. And by the way, hanging out with an immoral friend to evangelize is OK.
Again, women have the power to set the standard, despite what you think.
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Karin
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Very true!
So these woman that you meet at church functions and at work make men climb into bed with them?
Figured…but does the process of evangelizing lead people to sin? If not than this is a non-issue.
And so do men, they have the power to set the standard despite what you may think.
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buffalo
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Karin said:
They don’t actually MAKE them jump into bed, but they offer it. A moral man will not take the bait.
Men can and do set the standard, but in generally in our current culture the woman has immense power.
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Karin
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So what you are saying then is that there are more immoral men than moral men…if so many woman are getting pregnant outside of marraige.??
Yes woman have power but so do the men…they BOTH need to realize that kids out of wedlock is not good FOR ANYONE!
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buffalo
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Yes, many women are pregnant outside of marriage. There are many immoral men. Some are still boys and have been secularized. They do not know what sin is.
It doesn’t automatically translate that there are more immoral men than moral men since many men impregnate many women.
You have to break out the demographics:
- Teens - high pregnancy rate, single mothers and abortions
- Certain communities it is a triumph to have impregnated several women.
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JimG
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This is precisely why there is no profanity in Mark Twain’s books.* His wife read the proofs before they ever got to the publisher. They had to get past her first!
(*even in such books as “Life on the Mississippi” which has great swaths which are specifically about the profanity engaged in by his teacher pilot.)
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Chris_G
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The Church doesn’t condone shotgun weddings. Nor should they.
It seems to me that you want to blame all sin on woman and not on the men that also sin…please correct me if I am wrong…perhaps I am not understanding something here!
Yes, you are not understanding. Take a breath and look at the posts again. I don’t see anyone wanting to “blame all sin on woman”. They are just recognizing that the woman is in the better position (no pun intended) to fix things.
As mentioned many times, since the 60’s and the availability of ABC, abortion, free love, womans so called “liberation” (we are equal to men) women have now gained this so called freedom that has resulted in a complete topsy turvy definition of what it really means to be a woman. She has lost her identity.
How many women actually look to the Blessed Mother as an example of how to live as a wife and a Mother?
And now they have to bear the results of what they have sowed. And men are just as responsible for not being men and letting it happen. Trouble is, women are in the better position to put things right.
For example, two free loving, out for sex only teens have a go at it.
As it has been demonstrated over and over, if a male sinner and a female sinner engage in sexual relations outside of marriage and the woman ends up pregnant, she is now in the drivers seat to decided what her punishment will now be.
- Have an abortion (murder)
- Have the baby and raise it without a Father (and hopefully be able to get a court to get child support from the Father)
- Go through the pregnancy and give up the baby for adoption (usually the best option) but have to live with that decision.
- Try and convince this low life to marry her and then complain later on about how horrible a husband and Father he is.
- Marry her if she agrees, but he doesn’t have to and usually won’t.
- Don’t have anything to do with her and pay or not pay support (the latter maybe leading to jail time)
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kaymart
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I totally agree Chris G, Women today must assert themselves and take back their dignity. This so-called women’s Liberation has made women nothing more then sex-slaves for men. Years ago if a man took you to dinner and dancing, you said Good-bye with a little kiss. Today, if you don’t “put-out” then he “wasted” all that money for nothing
The use of pill and free-love in the down fall of women in todays world. And because nothing is 100 percent effective, if the Birth Control fails, it’s the woman for the most part who has to deal with the outcome. Men can and many do walk away. A women can not just walk away, even if she aborts she still has to go through that and live with that for the rest of her life. Even years later when she marries and starts a family the Doctor will ask any previous births, miscarriages or abortions? Has any man been asked that? So she must carry that info with her for life. This is why a woman can and must respect herself, and stop a relationship in its tracks with a man not worthy of her love. And on a side note, a man should also stay away from the type of woman that would bring him down, take a look at her, do you really want her to be the possible mother of your child?
The use of pill and free-love in the down fall of women in todays world. And because nothing is 100 percent effective, if the Birth Control fails, it’s the woman for the most part who has to deal with the outcome. Men can and many do walk away. A women can not just walk away, even if she aborts she still has to go through that and live with that for the rest of her life. Even years later when she marries and starts a family the Doctor will ask any previous births, miscarriages or abortions? Has any man been asked that? So she must carry that info with her for life. This is why a woman can and must respect herself, and stop a relationship in its tracks with a man not worthy of her love. And on a side note, a man should also stay away from the type of woman that would bring him down, take a look at her, do you really want her to be the possible mother of your child?
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GregoryPalamas
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Kaymart,
Yes, indeed. You’re hitting on all cylinders.
CDL
Yes, indeed. You’re hitting on all cylinders.
CDL
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buffalo
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Chris G:
We need to teach our young women to respect themselves and their femininity. Society has tricked us into blurring the lines between men and women to the extent that the terms hardly mean anything anymore.
and this leads right into young men and women with gender identity problems.
We need to teach our young women to respect themselves and their femininity. Society has tricked us into blurring the lines between men and women to the extent that the terms hardly mean anything anymore.
and this leads right into young men and women with gender identity problems.
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Karin
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Chris G:
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Chris_G
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Karin said:
If that’s all that defines gender differences to you, nuff said.
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vern_humphrey
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Chris G:
“Gender” applies to gramatical entities. Humans and animals have sexes.
I have never seen a word with pants or short hair (or any hair at all.)
“Gender” applies to gramatical entities. Humans and animals have sexes.
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Chris_G
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vern humphrey:
*]Grammar.- A grammatical category used in the classification of nouns, pronouns, adjectives, and, in some languages, verbs that may be arbitrary or based on characteristics such as sex or animacy and that determines agreement with or selection of modifiers, referents, or grammatical forms.
- One category of such a set.
- The classification of a word or grammatical form in such a category.
*]The distinguishing form or forms used.
*]Sexual identity, especially in relation to society or culture.
- The condition of being female or male; sex.
*]Females or males considered as a group: expressions used by one gender.
Source: www. dictionary.com
(my bold)
- The condition of being female or male; sex.
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