Bishop asks parishioners to stand?

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Prodigal1984 said:
Stand and do what?
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Stand and sing.
Over and over again the prayers of the liturgy and the norms of the General Instruction emphasize this fundamental concept of the unity of the baptized, stressing that when we come together to participate in the Eucharistic celebration we come, not as individuals, but as united members of Christ’s Body. In each of the Eucharistic Prayers, though the petition is worded in slightly different ways, God is asked to send his Holy Spirit to make us one body, one spirit in Christ; the General Instruction admonishes the faithful that “they are to form one body, whether in hearing the Word of God, or in taking part in the prayers and in the singing…” (no. 96). It describes one of the purposes of the opening song of the Mass as to “foster the unity of those who have been gathered” (no. 47), and says of the Communion Chant that “its purpose [is] to express the spiritual union of the communicants by means of the unity of their voices, to show gladness of heart, and to bring out more clearly the ‘communitarian’ character of the procession to receive the Eucharist” (no. 86).
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The Body of Christ breathes the Spirit of Christ. When we gather as the Body of Christ, we join our voices so we can experience that Spirit and rejoice in our resurrection to new life.

Why would you “not follow that”? Do you think your private devotions are more important than the presence of the Holy Spirit?

Come to Christ and sing praise with all the saints now to prepare yourself to do it eternally.
 
Dovekin said:
Why would you “not follow that”? Do you think your private devotions are more important than the presence of the Holy Spirit?
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Yes I do. I have no need to sing. And what if there is no music? I’d be better suited with Gregorian Chant or some Shubert Ave Maria for prayerful contemplation.
 
Yah I wouldn’t even follow that or I’d just stop going to the novus ordo all together if they introduced that here. Every so often they introduce these innovations in my diocese. I think I’m up to 8 out of the 10 on my checklist before I say peace be with you to the novus ordo.
 
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Is not the proper stance when the precious Body is exposed during adoration to kneel and pray?

How much moreso our reverence should be upon actually receiving.
 
Prodigal1984 said:
Yes I do. I have no need to sing. And what if there is no music? I’d be better suited with Gregorian Chant or some Shubert Ave Maria for prayerful contemplation.
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Why do you pray the Anima Christi?
Bid me come to Thee above,
With Thy saints to sing Thy love,
World without end.
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(Cardinal Newman’s translation)
 
Dovekin said:
Why do you pray the Anima Christi?
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Because it is traditional to pray it after receiving the Eucharist. Even the Missal promotes saying it. Read it. It is the most beautiful prayer to say after receiving the Lord. Also there is a partial indulgence for praying it after receiving. The Prayer Before the Crucifix is partial indulgence as well but on Fridays during Lent it is a plenary indulgence.

Anima Christi
Soul of Christ, sanctify me. Body of Christ, save me. Blood of Christ, inebriate me. Water from the side of Christ, wash me. Passion of Christ, strengthen me. O good Jesus, hear me. Within Thy wounds hide me. Separated from Thee let me never be. From the malignant enemy, defend me. At the hour of death, call me. And close to Thee bid me. That with Thy saints I may be Praising Thee, forever and ever. Amen.

Prayer Before a Cruxifix
Look down upon me, good and gentle Jesus, while before Thy face I humbly kneel, and with burning soul I pray and beseech Thee to fix deep in my heart lively sentiments of faith, hope and charity, true contrition for my sins, and a firm purpose of amendment; while I contemplate with great love and tender pity Thy five wounds, pondering over them within me, having in mind the words which David Thy prophet said of Thee, my Jesus: “They have pierced my hands and my feet; they have numbered all my bones.”
 
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Cor_ad_Cor said:
We stand in societal settings for dignitaries. We should stand when Jesus moves about the room, too. We can kneel in adoration once he’s enthroned at the altar or tabernacle.
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Let me start by saying I will obey the bishop. But Jesus is more than a dignitary. I stand for a dignitary but I like kneeling for God.

As for praying after Mass… if bishops are serious about this being our time for silent prayer I feel they need to start demanding parishioners not talk in the sanctuary after Mass. I haven’t heard anything about that though… :confused:
 
You do not realize you are praying to sing praise to God with all the saints?

Why isn’t that “protestant”? You make it sound like you would not enjoy heaven if God answers your prayers.
 
Jen7 said:
I am truly curious why anyone would have a problem with someone kneeling and singing. I always sing after Communion, but unless I’m in the choir I do it kneeling.
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I’m truly curious why we are expected to do anything but kneel and meditate on the Lords presence in us. Noone should be forcing anyone to sing.
 
Dovekin said:
You do not realize you are praying to sing praise to God with all the saints?

Why isn’t that “protestant”? You make it sound like you would not enjoy heaven if God answers your prayers.
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I want to be left alone after receiving and quiet. It is the only time during mass in the novus ordo when I can get some sacred silence. I look forward to it.
 
Prodigal1984 said:
Yah I wouldn’t even follow that or I’d just stop going to the novus ordo all together
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I’m grateful the standing thing came up while I was traveling. If it were in my home diocese I might consider this too. Actually I’d probably change rites because I love the Byzantine Catholic community nearby. Ironically they never kneel. But that’s not their traditional stance of reverence; never ya been. As a Roman Catholic I feel like taking away kneeling is eating away at the “culture” of Roman Catholicism.
 
Jen7 said:
Actually I’d probably change rites because I love the Byzantine Catholic community nearby.
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Aren’t they in schism? The Eastern Orthodox right? There’s a Greek Orthodox and Russian Orthodox Church in my town. I always have been curious not gonna lie.
 
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Jen7 said:
I am truly curious why anyone would have a problem with someone kneeling and singing. I always sing after Communion, but unless I’m in the choir I do it kneeling.
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No one has a problem with you kneeling. It is just not the norm chosen by the bishsops. Their intent was to get a more unified congregation to reflect the unity that comes from our communion.
 
Dovekin said:
No one has a problem with you kneeling. It is just not the norm chosen by the bishsops. Their intent was to get a more unified congregation to reflect the unity that comes from our communion.
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I don’t have a unity with the congregation I have a unity with Christ. That is what the Eucharist is. 90% of those people would act like they don’t even know you 5 minutes after Mass.
 
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Prodigal1984 said:
I’m truly curious why we are expected to do anything but kneel and meditate on the Lords presence in us. Noone should be forcing anyone to sing.
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If you read the USCCB article quoted above, it does cite communal singing as how we pray after Communion. As someone with a background in Sacred Music I can appreciate that. But nowhere do I say where people should be standing after they receive.

As an aside, I feel like maybe the bishops are misunderstanding what it means to be communal. When a community gathers for an occasion - maybe to celebrate someone’s birthday - everyone isn’t doing the same thing. Some sit and talk, some help in the kitchen, some hang out by the grill out back, etc. But it’s still communal, right?!
 
Prodigal1984 said:
I want to be left alone after receiving and quiet. It is the only time during mass in the novus ordo when I can get some sacred silence. I look forward to it.
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You want some silence so you can pray that God will let you sing his praises in heaven? Why do you not see the conflict in that?

“I want to be alone” does not sound like the right attitude for Communion time, but maybe that is my problem.
 
Prodigal1984 said:
Aren’t they in schism? The Eastern Orthodox right? There’s a Greek Orthodox and Russian Orthodox Church in my town. I always have been curious not gonna lie.
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No, the Eastern Rites aren’t in schism. The Orthodox are.
 
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