I believe it is called the gift of Faith. I adhere to the Churches’ teachings but I do not look down my noses at others. The more I read and learn about our faith the more I love it. Why would I not obey it?
This is very refreshing. This has gotten you on the short list of posters here I’d like to meet in person.
Yeeeeah. He disagrees on one issue so he’s losing it. I have a feeling this isn’t a reflection on his mental capabilities at all.
Once you disagree with the Church in the matters of faith and morals… well, you should really consider not calling yourself Catholic. The Church’s teachings are not “evil”, they are Truth.
The issue here is not necessarily knowing all that the Church teaches, but rather knowing what the Church teaches, and calling in ‘evil’.
This is absolutely an absolute truth. I’d like to know how much exposure Libero or Liberalsaved have had to Gumbleton.
Then Gumbleton should work towards peace and keep his mouth shut on his personal dissenting views.
Isidore_AK said:“The streets of Hell are paved with the skulls of bishops”
-St. John Chrysostom
I think there’s anotehr cobblestone coming their way…
I totally agree, but your confusing the issue. We are not talking about presenting the faith to others in order for them to make an informed decision, which may happen immediately or at a later time in their life. No, what we are talking about here is a Catholic bishop (not an unbeliever) whose express responsibility is to faithfully hand on the deposit of faith. And this is what I have absolutely no patience for - a bishop who spews the venom of error. He has had decades to get it right but apparently is either incapable or unwilling.
Which is exactly why Gumbleton is without excuse.
I am so sorry, but a clergy member who publicly proclaims that the Church’s teachings are evil deserves neither support nor respect. He does, however, deserve a swift kick…
And don’t forget the homily that he published in the National Catholic Reporter re: the Gospel story of the woman at the well.
That would be like a doctor who has a guarantee cure for cancer, but refuses to offer the cure, and in fact, turns away patients saying that they only need to take two aspirin. Then another doctor comes to his defense saying that, as a member of the medical community, this doctor deserves the respect and support of all cancer patients. How asinine!
Canon Law does require respect for both the person and the office.
I will have to look that one up in Canon Law. And I do very much respect the office… so much so that I believe the Judases should be removed from their office.
You miss point, my dear fellow.
My exposure to Gumbleton? I am teenage Briton - very little.
I don’t believe that Athanasius gave respect, and certainly not support, to Arius. Constantine requested (or ordered) that Arius be brought back from exile a reconciled to teh Church, but Athanasius refused to reconcile Arius to the Church alleging that (according to the Catholic Encyclopedia) “there could be no fellowship between the Church and the one who denied the Divinity of Christ.”