It is appropriate that you feel uncomfortable about it. What specific ideas or teachings do you think are not faithful or not moral in what the Holy Father wrote?
Some say yes, others say no.
I’ll be honest, that’s one I haven’t really worked through yet. I believe that we owe Pope Francis our fealty, and it’s within his authority to teach that we should not use the death penalty in most situations nowadays, especially in the developed western world.
I know, I was just bringing it up as a way to clearly illustrate a discipline versus a dogma.
I don’t know that there has even been a definitive proclamation in that sense because that teaching has never been challenged in such a way as to require it. The Pope only makes proclamations of that nature on topics that have been called into question on theological grounds. It also usually winds up taking a while. I expect that, given the culture’s widespread embrace of the moral evil of homosexuality, we’ll see a proclamation like that in the near future… though sadly I don’t believe it will be Pope Francis who makes the proclamation.
Transubstantiation doesn’t really ring a bell to many people either but it’s dogma. Inadmissible means “unable to be administered”. It means it can’t be administered at all. Actually this word was used because it is very precise (although not very well-known). Teaching isn’t unclear just because word used is not used in every day conversations.
Same. As I said, on basis of that one can also reject current Catechism saying that circumstances have changed again and Catechism needs updating. Logical explanation is that in day and age Catechism was updated, Death Penalty was unnecessary globally but it is still morally alright to do if certain circumstances are met. However, that means one can say that we are no longer in day and age when Catechism was changed therefore this teaching is no longer binding.
I do too, for reasons I explained above. I believe Pope-Emeritus Benedict to be better expert in this area anyway. Pope Francis focuses on Pastoral things but Pope-Emeritus Benedict is a theologian. Sure, Pope-Emeritus is no longer Pope but this isn’t probably any exercise of Papal Infallibility either way.
I don’t think we fundamentally disagree. If you want to stop discussion that’s fine, but my opinion is that this discussion is pretty civil and as such I enjoy it.
What does ‘milit’ mean? Is it somethng like ’ be militant’?
I suggest you interpret the word as meaning “unthinkable”.
Explicit declarations are rare. But when a matter is taught universally and consistently, as with sexual relationships outside marriage of a man and woman, it is said to be infallibly taught.
You think it is required or necessary to disagree?
Indeed. This is exactly how I feel. There are others like us even though we may be a minority. But if the doomsayers are right and the Vatican’s function as guardian of sure teachings continues to decline, we may be the last ones standing.
I can’t tell from your posts what you disagree with – topic is so general. So there really is not content to comment on.
Yes. Militate. Sorry.
There are two categories of authoritative teaching to be acknowledged in different ways:
To be fair, we are discussing the structure of an organization that has actively operated and taught for nearly 2000 years, and which teaches on a wide range of items that touch on basically every aspect of a person’s life.
