Bishops rip HHS mandate That Forces Coverage of Birth Control, Abortion Drugs

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Sen Rubio is introducing a bill to counter this attack on Catholicism. The bill is the Religious Freedoms Act (which should be guaranteed by the Constitution). Please let your senators and representatives know you want them to support this bill.
 
We are not trying to make them illegal, we just can’t be a party to them.
This is something that is missed in most of the arguments against the bishops on this issue. Catholics are falsely accused of intolerance by the truly intolerant. No one is trying to make others practice the Catholic faith. The bishops only want the Church to be able to follow the Catholic faith on contraceptives.
 
Bishops united in resisting HHS mandate

The U.S. bishops are united in their resolve not to comply with the HHS mandate requiring Catholic organizations to provide insurance coverage for contraception and sterilization, according to Bishop Kevin C. Rhoades of Fort Wayne-South Bend.

"We cannot and we will not comply with this unjust federal order. We cannot and we will not accept this egregious affront to our religious liberty,” Bishop Rhoades said in a Feb. 2 statement to be read at all parishes in the diocese.

The mandate’s implications are “grave,” he added. It negatively impacts the Catholic Church and “strikes at the fundamental right to religious liberty.”

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This is something that is missed in most of the arguments against the bishops on this issue. Catholics are falsely accused of intolerance by the truly intolerant. No one is trying to make others practice the Catholic faith. The bishops only want the Church to be able to follow the Catholic faith on contraceptives.
It is not missed, it is a disagreement of morals and values.

The bishops were all too happy to lend support to the criminalization of health care, to be intolerant of those who, for whatever reason, choose not to carry insurance.
 
The bishops were all too happy to lend support to the criminalization of health care, to be intolerant of those who, for whatever reason, choose not to carry insurance.
They did not support the Obamacare in its form. They were quite critical of it. Health care reform is neither criminal or immoral. As there is no specific bill that they supported, but rather the idea that we needed some way to get health care for all, no Catholic has any business accusing them of intolerance or criminal activity, though one can disagree with them on specifics.
 
They did not support the Obamacare in its form. They were quite critical of it. Health care reform is neither criminal or immoral. As there is no specific bill that they supported, but rather the idea that we needed some way to get health care for all, no Catholic has any business accusing them of intolerance or criminal activity, though one can disagree with them on specifics.
If any Catholic voted for Obama, they are moral criminals. How do they sleep at night knowing they voted for the most pro-abortion president in the US is beyond me. :mad:
 
They did not support the Obamacare in its form. They were quite critical of it. Health care reform is neither criminal or immoral. As there is no specific bill that they supported, but rather the idea that we needed some way to get health care for all, no Catholic has any business accusing them of intolerance or criminal activity, though one can disagree with them on specifics.
I must respectfully disagree.

While it is literally true that the bishops did not lobby for Obamacare as a particular bill, and while they did offer objections to specific provisions (such as abortion) it is clear that the bishops had, for some time, supported the general concept of socialized health care as a particular solution to providing health care for all.

Obamacare, with its individual mandate, makes criminals of anyone who does not purchase insurance. It criminalizes health care.

Anytime you get the government involved you are going to be making someone do something, in this case to provide health care for all.
 
If any Catholic voted for Obama, they are moral criminals. How do they sleep at night knowing they voted for the most pro-abortion president in the US is beyond me. :mad:
There are a few Catholics who defend on Obama on this forum even though they know the abortion and religious liberty issues
 
If any Catholic voted for Obama, they are moral criminals. How do they sleep at night knowing they voted for the most pro-abortion president in the US is beyond me. :mad:
They can go to the Church for what they did, I’m more concerned what they will do this year. 👍
 
A journalist friend in Rome just raised an alternative reading of the story to me on the street. What if Obama is actually making a principled argument that abortion, sterilization and contraception services are a fundamental aspect of women’s health that cannot and should not be denied to anyone, regardless of their own religious or individual convictions? Perhaps the White House believes, as most progressives do, that these stodgy, uptight opponents will eventually, inevitably, be overcome and we will one day wonder what all the fuss about. If so, the administration is doing much more than thinking about the next election; it’s redefining what the word “health” means to include measures that violently take away life from the most innocent and vulnerable persons, regardless of who pays for the services. This makes it much more than a religious freedom or a conscience issue and a matter of simple justice.
blog.acton.org/archives/29035-obamacare-vs-the-catholic-bishops.html
 
There are a few Catholics who defend on Obama on this forum even though they know the abortion and religious liberty issues
I know some Catholics in my parish still defend Obama even with all these clear immoral issues. I just could not figure out where their conscience are. Either they don’t have conscience or they are self cheating. Maybe they are idol worshipers. They take Obama as their idol and support him life or death. I think it is exactly these Catholics destroy America along with this administration.

But we ought to help people realize. There was an old lady at church today who appeared to be totally out of touch. After someone explained to her what HHS is, she was so shocked and seemed waking up. We should help all people to wake up.
 
As soon as Sebelius released this decision, the Catholic church panicked. The Conference of Catholic Bishops reached out to the administration to explain the position in which it had put them. But the tone of their concern was largely friendly: Most Catholic leaders were convinced that the entire thing was a misunderstanding and that the policy—which was labeled an “interim” measure—would eventually be amended.
The reason for this optimism was that more than a few important Catholics had previously climbed out on a high branch for Obama politically, and for his health care reform as a matter of policy. Despite what you may read in the New York Times, most lay Catholics are nominally at home in the Democratic party. (Remember that a majority of Catholics voted for Obama in 2008.) And what is true of the laity goes double for those in religious life. In 2009, Notre Dame president Father John Jenkins welcomed President Obama as the school’s commencement speaker in the face of a heated student protest. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops mostly kept its powder dry during the fight over Obamacare, and very few members of the church hierarchy actively, or even tacitly, opposed the bill. Others, such as Sister Carol Keehan, the president of the Catholic Health Association, actually lobbied in favor of it, early and often. So most Catholics took the president at his word when he met with Archbishop Timothy Dolan last fall and assured him that when the final version of the policy was eventually released, any fears would be allayed.
That was their mistake. Obama telephoned Dolan on the morning of January 20 to inform him that the only concession he intended to offer in the final policy was to extend the deadline for conformity to August 2013. Every other aspect of the policy enunciated by Sebelius would remain rigidly in place.
weeklystandard.com/articles/obamacare-vs-catholics_620946.html
 
I know from participating in lots of online activism, that Internet partitions work. The last petition I signed was against SOPA and PIPA, which was signed by 13 million others, as well. Is there an online petition in regards to this issue? Please provide me a link and I will tweet it to my many thousands of followers. Thanks, Mike
 
I know from participating in lots of online activism, that Internet partitions work. The last petition I signed was against SOPA and PIPA, which was signed by 13 million others, as well. Is there an online petition in regards to this issue? Please provide me a link and I will tweet it to my many thousands of followers. Thanks, Mike
Here you go …

stophhs.com/

:blessyou:
 
As we have documented, lobbying by the Catholic Bishops and their representatives, who worked closely with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, guaranteed passage of the health care bill in the House.
In a January 13 conference call and briefing, Kevin Appleby, a representative of the U.S. Catholic Bishops, explained in frank language why the Bishops are so desperate to pass the health care and immigration bills. He said that the Bishops want a federal health plan to absorb the costs being borne by the nation’s 600 Catholic hospitals to cover illegal aliens.
Appleby said, “We have Catholic hospitals throughout the country that experience the same things that Alan was describing and we serve undocumented immigrants in our emergency rooms and community clinics, etc. So we have a stake in this in that the burden will fall not just on our providers but as Alan described, taxpayers throughout the country.”
This was one of the clearest indications yet that support for national health care legislation is a means by which the Bishops can dump some of the costs of operating Catholic hospitals on the American taxpayers.
usasurvival.org/ck01.27.10.html
 
If any Catholic voted for Obama, they are moral criminals.
That is neither this topic nor Catholic teaching. They may be morally culpable for that action, depending on circumstances.
 
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