Black smoke, No Pope yet [CNA]

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Hopefully we’ll have a new Pope within a week or even less. I doubt that the conclave will take longer than that. I heard from somewhere that within the past 100 years no conclave ever took longer than 5 days.
 
Holly3278 said:
Hopefully we’ll have a new Pope within a week or even less. I doubt that the conclave will take longer than that. I heard from somewhere that within the past 100 years no conclave ever took longer than 5 days.
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I’m thinking by around Roman Noon on Thursday this will be done.
 
Are they going to vote again today, or do they just do one round of voting per day?
 
The smoke was definitely black and lots of it. I hope our Blessed JP II is looking down and whispering the them to make sure they get it right!
 
So, if we did not get a Pope by the “end of the third day”, there would be a day of rest, prayer, and discussion. Does that mean there would be no voting Friday, or no voting Saturday?
 
Gavroche said:
Are they going to vote again today, or do they just do one round of voting per day?
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Done for today. They normally do two votes in the morning and two in the evening. I believe we only get black smoke if both votes do not result in a new pope. I would expect that there were already 2 votes during the afternoon’s session.
 
Usige said:
Done for today. They normally do two votes in the morning and two in the evening. I believe we only get black smoke if both votes do not result in a new pope. I would expect that there were already 2 votes during the afternoon’s session.
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Nope, a maximum of one vote on the first day - and that’s optional. They clearly decided to do one today, as they did in 2005, although neither of the 1978 conclaves had a vote on the first day. But you are correct, a maximum of two ballot burnings per day.
 
Can someone explain to me why voting seems to take so long? Theres 115 Cardinals voting as I understand it. Do they make speeches once inside the chapel? I just don’t see how it takes so long for them to write a name on a piece of paper and then count them.
 
No speeches, in fact supposedly there is almost complete silence in the chapel once voting begins. But in addition to however long it takes all of them to make their selections and write it down, each man has to individually approach the altar and swear an oath to Christ that their selection was made in good faith for the man best able to govern the church.
 
Gavroche said:
Can someone explain to me why voting seems to take so long? Theres 115 Cardinals voting as I understand it. Do they make speeches once inside the chapel? I just don’t see how it takes so long for them to write a name on a piece of paper and then count them.
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I understand that there are three vote counts before they set fire to the ballots. Also, each cardinal keeps his own tally as the votes are read.

If you’ve ever watched CSPAN-2 Senate voting, you might appreciate the time taken to count the votes of 115 Cardinals. 🙂
 
PetiteFoi said:
I am actually so excited about this! 😃

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This is an awesome illustrated guide to the conclave - It really explained a LOT to me!

Peace,
~ PetiteFoi

It is very exciting and the coverage on EWTN when the light came on the smoke stack with the people watching almost made you hold your breath in anticipation, although I don’t think any seriously expected to see white smoke today.

How awesome our Church is and the oath taken individually by each Cardinal before placing his vote on the plate makes one realize just how solemn the procedure is - The Holy Spirit in action - what a bounteous grace!
 
ProVobis said:
If you’ve ever watched CSPAN-2 Senate voting, you might appreciate the time taken to count the votes of 115 Cardinals. 🙂
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True! :newidea:

Maybe we should adopt the conclave’s method of voting - guess what - no voter fraud!!
 
If the smoke is white at any point tomorrow, then I would say we should probably get out to celebrate either a Scola or Scherer victory with a cyber :clapping: , or perhaps Ouellet. Given that these three are the media frontrunners, it would likely mean a win for one of their “camps” so to speak. If black smoke arises tomorrow and the voting goes on to Thursday, Scola or Scherer - if media hype about them is too be believed - may have been unable to receive a two-thirds majority and so the cardinals will be looking for a compromise candidate as with the 1978 conclaves. If no pope is elected on Thursday, then we should probably look in the direction of more outside candidates such as Ravasi, O’Malley, Dolan, Tagle or Schonborn. If no pope is elected on Friday, then we will know for sure that a compromise candidate has had to be found.

Alternatively, vaticanists might be totally wrong about Scola and Scherer’s popularity among their peers.

Just my two :twocents:
 
Tigg said:
It is very exciting and the coverage on EWTN when the light came on the smoke stack with the people watching almost made you hold your breath in anticipation, although I don’t think any seriously expected to see white smoke today.

How awesome our Church is and the oath taken individually by each Cardinal before placing his vote on the plate makes one realize just how solemn the procedure is - The Holy Spirit in action - what a bounteous grace!
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You don’t think though they have conversations, even subtle ones, on candidates, over lunch and dinner? Comparing mental notes and seeing where alliances or blocks of votes are and who might be able to put together the necessary number?
 
I think it really depends on just how spread out the votes really are. If eight or nine (or more) candidates can out of the conclave tonight with a few votes, then I don’t think that really offers much opportunity to “narrow it down”…and lets face it, it wouldn’t be hard to come up with eight or nine names who could easily win a few votes each. I think we’ll be done by Sunday, but it would not surprise me at all if we were not done UNTIL Sunday, particularly since either Friday or Saturday would see no voting.
 
CMatt25 said:
You don’t think though they have conversations, even subtle ones, on candidates, over lunch and dinner? Comparing mental notes and seeing where alliances or blocks of votes are and who might be able to put together the necessary number?
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I really don’t know the answer to that, but I always imagined this like a jury who has been sequestered. Sequestered juries can not talk with fellow jurors about the case outside of the jury room. Then again, perhaps they are allowed to discuss further. In a way I guess discussions might have to happen becuase wouldn’t each vote just have the same results otherwise?
 
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