The love is there, but I dont think you understand it:shrug: By explaining that this child is being taught hate at such an early age, but you agree with this type of indoctrination dont you? Just a quick question for you, is this how you were taught the Muslim faith?Christianity teaches you to love your enemies?
I’m not feeling the love.
the basis for fear and hatred is a sense of humiliation and opression, and a feeling of impending danger from western powers.
I’m sorry, defend yourselves from what? The on comming Muslim hordes who will conquor the forums if we don’t make dubious generalizations and cut and past assertions from far rights fear mongering sights?
Sure, just like the anti-Catholic bigots here tell me that while “the truth hurts” the fact is most Catholic Priests are perverts and Catholics beleive they have to earn salvation.I agree that is a lot of stereotyping here, but most I would say is correct, nobody like their truths!
My heart goes out to that Child, and all the children under such control who are taught xenophobic, anti-semetic, hatefull non-sense, however there is a difference between saying brainwashing a child is wrong, and then makeing generalizations about all Muslims.
Any “sense of humiliation and oppression” is a product of overactive imaginations coupled with an utter lack of productive effort towards activities that produce a genuine sense of accomplishment, confidence and feelings of self worth. No one is oppressing Islamic countries except perhaps their own governments. Islam has done most, if not all of, this to itself.
They certianly have, as have all religions.
Some Jews have, I’m willing to bet some Jews are real jerks, however all Jews I have ever met have been kind, loveing, hospitable people, as have all Muslims. Simply because there are some dangerous fanatics in the Muslim world dosen’t excuse demonizing all Muslims.
Have you ever read the Koran, from front to back, cover to cover?
I wasen’t actually saying Jews were greedy, I was being sarcastic. I’m sure some Jews are greedy, as are some Christians, and as are some Muslims, the point is not to judge an entire religious population based on the actions on some individuals.
Right, of course you know that untill the last half centuy or so Americans were actually quite popular in the Middle East.
That’s just not true.
And America has, to our great shame, proped up and helped many of those governments. Imperial Hubris is a dangerous thing, and when we decided to view the Middle East and all of Asia as a giant chess set to play with aghinst the Russians it cost us dearly, Alexander Solzhenitsyn pointed this out quote eloquently in the 80’s, look up his Harvard commencement speech.
Youd have to be specific, in some places Islam has retarded progress, other times it has greatly helped it.
How about Iran?
Amy is a Christian convert to Islam
Left wing talking points are not persuasive. This is CAF not DailyKos
I’m from New York. We have been taught a vivid lesson about Islam that the Muslim world has failed to contradict.
I’ve never actually been on DailyKos, however beyond that everything I have said is fact, if youd like citations that’s fine, I already pointed you to “All the Shah’s Men” which is a very involved detailing of TPAJAX, the covert opperation that overthrew Mossedeq and led to the Shah’s dictatorship.
Except 93% of the Muslim world disagreed with it, in fact one of Pakistans most fundamentalist clerics said it was the duty of good Muslims to fight with the US aghinst the Taliban, which was widely hated.
Only if you assume Wahaabist radicals represent mainstream Islam, which it dosen’t, perceisly why the Wahaabists had to slaughter tens of thousands of unarmed Muslims who opposed their puritanical madness
They sure kept it a secret.
Wahaabism has grown faster than any other expression of Islam and has put a face on it that nobody can ignore.
Whether or not the US (and that was, it must be remembered, under the tender leadership of Jimmy Carter) assisted in the overthrow of the Shah decades ago does not change what I originally wrote.
what nation do you think is the best representation for mainstream islam?
No they didn’t, Tehran held candlelight vigils and Al-Quaida was condemned by many Muslim religious leaders, Bin Laden has done plenty of things to set him self at odds with mainstream Muslims, he personally issues Fatwa’s, something he has no right to do, he deneies the traditional four schools of Muslims law, he rejects traditional interpretations and authority, he allows suacide, he attacks women and children, something forbidden in Islamic law, and he slaughters fellow Muslims.
I remember 9/11, my Priest was from New Yorks and had several friends killed, we watched it untill the principal ordered teachers to turn off all TV’s.
I think Iran has made the most interesting attempt, though it failed.
They come living in the west and then insists on dressing up like aliens & foreigners. Locals see that as an open defiance.