Brainwashed 2 year old Muslim girl on YouTube, scary.

[IvanKaramozov]

I am not going to downplay the truth…what good would that do in bringing people out of bondage? You claim you are Catholic (?) yet at every turn you defend Islam…what’s up with that?

A friend of mine had a 6foot plus USMC Colonal scream at her, WE’RE AT WAR WITH YOUR RELIGION!" and drove her to tears, amd a holocaust survivor grabed my arm at her talk and looked me directly in the eyes, something I will never forget, both events have made me determined to do whatever I can aghinst stupid bigotry and demonization of minorities.

Muslims are decieved by a false prophet. saying Mohammad is not a murdering psychotic pedophile is not the best way to convince a Muslim Islam is a false religion, I agree, but it is the truth… “And the truth will set you free”. Can you deny this? Can you yourself claim Mohammad as a true prophet of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

The question of weather he was a prophet of any sort is debateable, Hans King had an interesting take on it. The claim the he was a murdering psychopathic killer is not a fact it is your oppinion.

Teaching a baby hatred of Jews and Christians is pretty revealing of Quranic “truth”.

Right, well, I certianly base my oppinions of the content of various religions on strange YouTube videos.

The Quran has 99 names for God, one of which is The Deceiver. God does not lie, He is Truth. Mohammad is the deceiver. Takiyya is from Mohammad not from God.

The Torah teaches that there is one and only one God, one person etc, therefore the Torah must be a lie

Mohammad’s message is one of HATE, hate for anything that goes against what he believes and OBEDIENCE to Allah THROUGH MOHAMMAD.

ummmm…no

To defend Islam is to defend a false prophet. My trust is in Jesus for He is “the Way, the Truth and the Life”. He is risen. And if you believe that than you should have no doubt that Mohammad is a false prophet.

I’m glad you have such confidence/hubris reguarding your religious beliefs, may I, however, suggust that a little humility goes a long way?

 

[peacelight]

And our Pope forgave his would be assassinator. Let’s remember his example here and not answer hatred with hatred. I do not trust the Quran simply because common sense alone tells me it is NOT from Allah. It is from the deluded mind of a murdering psychotic pedophile Mohammad…read the Quran and ahadith as the proof is within is pages so that you can educate your children to denounce this false religion. We must pray for our Muslim brothers and sisters who believe in the one true God that they may come to know the true power of peace and grace of the Word Incarnate whom they reject. He is risen and He will come again.

You know I know quite a bit I guess after reading conversion stories of former muslims. Kinda sad actually because they were forbid to learn and read our Bible especially the Gospel. Most of them did in secret afraid of their parents and other followers and mostly afraid of their cleric. They were brought up not to questions and this keep them in darkness. ANd the only entity that forbid God’s creatures from knowing the good and see the light is the devil himself. The people in this case the muslim people is not bad people the teaching in Islam itself is the main problem. I agree we should pray for our muslim brothers and sisters outthere so that they may come to know and see the true power of peace, grace and love. They may come to know that Jesus Christ is the true Messiah.

 

[AgnosTheist]

It’s generally worn with the onset of puberty

Dangerous extremist muslims have 2 year olds wear them.

 

[IvanKaramozov]

Dangerous extremist muslims have 2 year olds wear them.

it’s amazing how much information you managed to draw from a YouTube video

Not only are they extreamists, dangerous as well

 

[AgnosTheist]

it’s amazing how much information you managed to draw from a YouTube video

Not only are they extreamists, dangerous as well

First of all an extremist muslim is dangerous. Far more dangerous than an extremist christian. Thats a fact.

Now how does that video speak of extremism? Treating a BABY like a sex object.

common sense, my friend.

 

[Margarite]

You know this is just wrong the way y’all are so hateful, you cannot draw flies with vinegar. Islam is a fine religion. The moderates are good people who follow the laws and don’t bother people. Don’t spew hate it is so ugly and non-Christian.

 

[Booklover]

I don’t think the girl is being indoctrinated, nor do I think she is being taught hate.

Come on, don’t be facetious! Yes, she is being indoctrinated and at the least taught contempt for others. As ex-Muslim Ibn Misr wrote in one article:

"Give any first grader muslim child in any islamic country just two words, “Death for…,” and ask him to fill the dots with all what he learned. he will fill the whole page.

The most terrifying thing in Geert Wilders koran movie, was not 911, London, Madrid, or the beheadings, but the three year old girl filled with hate towards the Jews, the sons of apes and pigs. Certainly she would’ve said the same thing about the Christian kafirs, since that’s what she hears all day long, whether at school or from the mosque’s loudspeakers. Let me repeat it, this is the most terrifying thing in the whole movie. And for those who don’t know, this girl is the daughter of a known Egyptian actor (not a Hamas jihadist), Mohamed El Arabi. It can’t get more moderate mainstream than this."

She is asked two questions, “Who are struck by Allah’s Wrath?” and “Who are the misguided?”

This is, as far as I can tell, the only mention of Christians OR Jews in the entire clip. Correct me if I am wrong.

Why bring up the Jews and Christians at all? In another article, Blogging the Muslims’ Mind, Ibm Misr also stated:

There are no Friday sermons in all Islamic countries (without exception) that don’t include the usual load of dirt and all their Allah’s curses on Christianity, and the kaffers(Christians and Jews), the sons of apes and pigs (not Judaism, since they know it’s not a missionary religion and they don’t fear Muslim conversions to Judaism). To a lesser extent, in the West they limit themselves (knowing they’re on candid camera and monitored) to negative coded criticism.

and

A Muslim is fed since his birth, to the point of bursting, that he’s a member of the most privileged and best people of all creation ever produced by Allah. "Koran 3:110 Ye are the best of Peoples, evolved for mankind”. Coupled with being injected (also to the point of bursting) with the inferiority of all other people especially Christians and Jews the sons of apes and pigs.

For more than 14 centuries, the failing, backward and for the majority completely bankrupted (literally on every level) Islamic societies and (gangsters) rulers had nothing to offer their populations other than misery and desperation with no hope for a better life (in this world). To compensate for their shortcomings, they drilled in the Muslim brain that belief of superiority, and filled him with Islam 24/7/365 to feed his (false) pride short of feeding his stomach and convinced him that if Allah allowed Christian, Jews and Westerners to prosper it’s only so he can plunder them “ Koran 33:27 And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods (money), and of a land which ye had not frequented (Before).”

Vickie

 

[Booklover]

You know this is just wrong the way y’all are so hateful, you cannot draw flies with vinegar. Islam is a fine religion. The moderates are good people who follow the laws and don’t bother people. Don’t spew hate it is so ugly and non-Christian.

Who’s been indoctrinating you?

Vickie

 

[AgnosTheist]

Islam is a fine religion. The moderates are good people who follow the laws and don’t bother people. Don’t spew hate it is so ugly and non-Christian.

moderates are good people because they can be rather more humane than islamic.

 

[Margarite]

The extremeist Muslims who follow the Koran to the letter, are nuts, that is like following the Mosaic laws to the letter nowadays. I mean can you imagine stoning people to death? They do that in Islamic countries and that is what we Christians oppose. I don’t think any of us oppose freedom of religion, we just support freedom from oppression.

Moderation is the best thing no matter what religion you are, so why should Islam be different? Now by moderate, we don’t mean “Everything is OK” but we rather mean that people shouldn’t go to extremes. Take the Catholic Church for example. I am a conservative, so I prefer the TLM, but that does not mean that I will join the SSPX, or go and kill people so that I can go to a TLM. And if you are more liberal, that does not mean that you should kill me or allow Barney masses.
It is a sense of moderation that needs to dominate every part of our lives.

Booklover, it is that evil Christian book they call the by-bull

 

[Booklover]

The extremeist Muslims who follow the Koran to the letter, are nuts, that is like following the Mosaic laws to the letter nowadays. I mean can you imagine stoning people to death? They do that in Islamic countries and that is what we Christians oppose. I don’t think any of us oppose freedom of religion, we just support freedom from oppression.

Moderation is the best thing no matter what religion you are, so why should Islam be different? Now by moderate, we don’t mean “Everything is OK” but we rather mean that people shouldn’t go to extremes. Take the Catholic Church for example. I am a conservative, so I prefer the TLM, but that does not mean that I will join the SSPX, or go and kill people so that I can go to a TLM. And if you are more liberal, that does not mean that you should kill me or allow Barney masses.
It is a sense of moderation that needs to dominate every part of our lives.

For there to be “moderates” there has to be moderate Islam. Is there really such a thing? They all read the same book

Booklover, it is that evil Christian book they call the by-bull

Funny!

Vickie

 

[Sister_Amy]

Right in the middle of Surat al-Baqara there is a verse which says what means “We have appointed you a nation wasat” which can mean a “just” nation but also a nation that is “moderate.” Meaning in the middle. And of course it’s right in the middle of the Surah!

Here are some hadith about moderation in worship: witness-pioneer.org/vil/hadeeth/riyad/00/chap014.htm

Islam is the religion of moderation… extremism is not the way of Islam.

 

[Booklover]

Right in the middle of Surat al-Baqara there is a verse which says what means “We have appointed you a nation wasat” which can mean a “just” nation but also a nation that is “moderate.” Meaning in the middle. And of course it’s right in the middle of the Surah!

Here are some hadith about moderation in worship: witness-pioneer.org/vil/hadeeth/riyad/00/chap014.htm

Islam is the religion of moderation… extremism is not the way of Islam.

It’s amazing to me that you can actually believe that last line, when Muslims resort to violence at the slightest offense!

Vickie

 

[Sister_Amy]

It’s amazing to me that you can actually believe that last line, when Muslims resort to violence at the slightest offense!

Vickie

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe people aren’t acting according to their religious teachings all the time?

 

[LaMar]

The extremeist Muslims who follow the Koran to the letter, are nuts, that is like following the Mosaic laws to the letter nowadays. I mean can you imagine stoning people to death? They do that in Islamic countries and that is what we Christians oppose. I don’t think any of us oppose freedom of religion, we just support freedom from oppression.

Moderation is the best thing no matter what religion you are, so why should Islam be different? Now by moderate, we don’t mean “Everything is OK” but we rather mean that people shouldn’t go to extremes. Take the Catholic Church for example. I am a conservative, so I prefer the TLM, but that does not mean that I will join the SSPX, or go and kill people so that I can go to a TLM. And if you are more liberal, that does not mean that you should kill me or allow Barney masses.
It is a sense of moderation that needs to dominate every part of our lives.

Booklover, it is that evil Christian book they call the by-bull

Besides being an excellent post, it also managed to be humorous.

I think Sister Amy and Planten are both good examples of moderate Muslims. When I read their articles I get the impression that they are deeply committed to the best aspects of their faith. They’re tolerant, patient, and will always attempt to answer honest questions.

In that regard they’re similar to Matt RC, Paul Dupre, and yourself I’m sure, on the Catholic side. And there’s Valke representing Judaism. All of these people are secure enough in their faith to examine it critically, and they’re good human beings who see the humanity in others even when disagreements arise.

I don’t see Jesus, Moses or Muhammad bashing anyone, trying to make anyone feel badly, or otherwise consciously doing harm to another person if it could be avoided. The prophets of all religious movements seem to be people who were very human and committed to spreading good social values rather than needless conflict. The disciples of all these traditions are wise to follow their good examples.

 

[Booklover]

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe people aren’t acting according to their religious teachings all the time?

Are you saying that those who resort to violence are not acting according to the teachings of Islam??

Vickie

 

[Sister_Amy]

Are you saying that those who resort to violence are not acting according to the teachings of Islam??

Vickie

When the violence is unjust, indeed that is what I am saying.

 

[MugenOne]

Mohammed didn’t bash anyone. He just simply killed anyone who insulted or disagreed with him.

A group of eight men from the tribe of 'Ukil came to the Prophet and then they found the climate of Medina unsuitable for them. So, they said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Provide us with some milk.” Allah’s Apostle said, “I recommend that you should join the herd of camels.” So they went and drank the urine and the milk of the camels (as a medicine) till they became healthy and fat. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels, and they became unbelievers after they were Muslims. When the Prophet was informed by a shouter for help, he sent some men in their pursuit, and before the sun rose high, they were brought, and he had their hands and feet cut off. Then he ordered for nails which were heated and passed over their eyes, and they were left in the Harra (i.e. rocky land in Medina). They asked for water, and nobody provided them with water till they died (Abu Qilaba, a sub-narrator said, “They committed murder and theft and fought against Allah and His Apostle, and spread evil in the land.”) (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 261)

Some people raided the camels of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him), drove them off, and apostatised. They killed the herdsman of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) who was a believer. He (the Prophet) sent (people) in pursuit of them and they were caught. He had their hands and feet cut off, and their eyes put out. The verse regarding fighting against Allah and His Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was then revealed. These were the people about whom Anas ibn Malik informed al-Hajjaj when he asked him. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4356)

Besides being an excellent post, it also managed to be humorous.

I think Sister Amy and Planten are both good examples of moderate Muslims. When I read their articles I get the impression that they are deeply committed to the best aspects of their faith. They’re tolerant, patient, and will always attempt to answer honest questions.

In that regard they’re similar to Matt RC, Paul Dupre, and yourself I’m sure, on the Catholic side. And there’s Valke representing Judaism. All of these people are secure enough in their faith to examine it critically, and they’re good human beings who see the humanity in others even when disagreements arise.

I don’t see Jesus, Moses or Muhammad bashing anyone, trying to make anyone feel badly, or otherwise consciously doing harm to another person if it could be avoided. The prophets of all religious movements seem to be people who were very human and committed to spreading good social values rather than needless conflict. The disciples of all these traditions are wise to follow their good examples.

 

[Booklover]

I don’t see Jesus, Moses or Muhammad bashing anyone, trying to make anyone feel badly, or otherwise consciously doing harm to another person if it could be avoided. The prophets of all religious movements seem to be people who were very human and committed to spreading good social values rather than needless conflict. The disciples of all these traditions are wise to follow their good examples.

You post the most awful rubbish! Muhammad stole for a living, had people assassinated simply for writing satyrical poems about him, had an insatiable sexual lust, he and his merry band of thugs raped women captives after torturing and killing their husbands and had sex with a child! How can you compare his vile lifestyle to Jesus’!

Vickie

 

[Sister_Amy]

Muhammad went to visit a town, called Ta’if, to tell them about Islam. The people weren’t interested, and they had their children chase him out by throwing stones at him. Throwing stones at him!!

And the angel of the mountain came to ask Muhammad if he wanted the mountain to fall and destroy this town for what they had done to him. But he said no, and he just prayed for the people, and that their children would be guided to Islam.