BREAKING: Texas Republicans pass abortion law after marathon filibuster

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If you think that this mob was merely exercising their free speech rights, read this article and the Tweets that they send on Sunday night.

Midnight Chaos

Some were even advocating occupying the Senate chamber floor. Of course they would have been arrested, but what arrogance!
 
People can rage all they want on the internet, but where were they when their government was making decisions for them?
There were supporters of the bill there, and they were behaving like adults instead of wound-up baboons.

I hope the Senate has some crowd control this time around. Gotta keep the monkeys at bay.
 
There were supporters of the bill there, and they were behaving like adults instead of wound-up baboons.

I hope the Senate has some crowd control this time around. Gotta keep the monkeys at bay.
They’re in a lose-lose situation on that front. Either they let the crowds in and suffer through the same behavior as last time, or they lock them out and make them into martyrs whose “voice wasn’t heard”.
 
Exactly. In a war, you don’t say, “Well, this is an economic strategy, I would like our enemies to understand that what they are doing is morally wrong in any case.” You hit them as hard as you can by destroying their means of support for attacking you. You destroy their infrastructure - roads, bridges, factories, dams, power plants. Obviously we aren’t going to literally drop bombs on the abortion clinics, but we can economically chip away at their bottom lines, while at the same time exposing their lies to women and the harm they do. The ultrasound bill has already caused a LOT of damage to PP’s bottom line, and shown women that the “blob of tissue” is in actuality, a living baby. Almost without exception, when women are actually shown their baby on an US, they choose life. We know that because there is a mobile pregnancy clinic parked outside PP here in my city, and over 500 babies have been saved, and more are saved every day. We know from the reaction we get (Sunday night being a great example) that we ARE having an effect, and it is hurting abortion providers and in turn, the industry itself.

Then there is Abby Johnson’s ministry, “And Then There Were None,” aimed at getting clinic workers to quit their jobs, as she did, and find new work for them, and support their healing process. And of course, 40 Days for Life which seems like nothing much, just prayerful presence at abortion clinics, but which has been responsible for many lives being saved and many clinics being closed down.

The Personhood Amendment effort is yet another strategy, and we can also attack the laws that make it possible to consider dead babies’ remains to be “medical waste.” There are hundreds of battle fronts that we can fight on, and that we will fight on.

We can’t at this time confront Roe v. Wade directly but over time, our aim is to make it unnecessary to do so.
BRAVA! Exactly right. This IS a war and anyone who reads military history knows that you don’t win one battle and take your toys and go home. Multiple fronts, land, sea and air :D. But not in the screaming and thuggish ways used by the abortion promoters, by making unborn babies human in the eyes of the public. They have been dehumanized by the evil empire of abortion mills, feminists, the media and frankly our schools’ curricula on sex and reproduction are a factor as well. But we have not only the power of Christ and His Church but biology and technology on our side.

Your statement that abortion should be unthinkable as well as illegal is perfect. Murder is illegal and unthinkable, rape, child abuse, and many other violations of human rights are the same. Slavery and racism are unthinkable as well. Abortion needs to be in the same mode. Isn’t it ironic that there is more media outrage over what Paula Deen said thirty years ago than in the deaths of millions of unborn babies? Our society understands right and wrong, we just need to show them the truth.

Lisa
 
There were supporters of the bill there, and they were behaving like adults instead of wound-up baboons.

I hope the Senate has some crowd control this time around. Gotta keep the monkeys at bay.
I am going to report your post for the disparagement of primates.

Shame on you, we’re supposed to be charitable to all species on this forum.
 
Our objective is to make abortion both illegal and unthinkable. Any way we can get closer to that goal is good. The people who are doing abortions know the difference and all of us do too. It’s a great step forward and you will know when you hear the screaming of all the abortion harpies in the country.
This is so true. I think we have a lesson to learn from the liberals, who have been patient and persistent at pushing things in tiny, little baby steps for 40+ years now.
 
Has anyone here watched the British Parliament in action? It’s rarely focused on decorum. I understand the arguments against those opposing this bill, but I can’t understand the outrage over those who loudly and publicly protested. Who cares? Gov. Perry’s just going to keep demanding special sessions. Whether I agree with protestors or not, it seems to be a byproduct of representative democracy. And decorum doesn’t exactly seem appropriate when connected with the topic of abortion.
 
Has anyone here watched the British Parliament in action? It’s rarely focused on decorum. I understand the arguments against those opposing this bill, but I can’t understand the outrage over those who loudly and publicly protested. Who cares? Gov. Perry’s just going to keep demanding special sessions. Whether I agree with protestors or not, it seems to be a byproduct of representative democracy. And decorum doesn’t exactly seem appropriate when connected with the topic of abortion.
Those 1,000 or so protestors just wasted a whole lot of taxpayer money by interfering with the democratic process. Of course Austin benefits, because that’s another 30 days of hotel rooms, restaurant meals, etc. It’s a win-win for the loonies in the gallery, crying out for the blood of the preborn to continue to be spilled. That is most certainly NOT representative democracy, it is the opposite, it is what the founders tried to prevent, it is MOB RULE by a minority. Read your history. You’ll have to go all the way back to the Federalist Papers though, you won’t find the truth in history books any more.
 
Those 1,000 or so protestors just wasted a whole lot of taxpayer money by interfering with the democratic process. Of course Austin benefits, because that’s another 30 days of hotel rooms, restaurant meals, etc. It’s a win-win for the loonies in the gallery, crying out for the blood of the preborn to continue to be spilled. That is most certainly NOT representative democracy, it is the opposite, it is what the founders tried to prevent, it is MOB RULE by a minority. Read your history. You’ll have to go all the way back to the Federalist Papers though, you won’t find the truth in history books any more.
I said it was a byproduct of representative democracy. Citizens want to ensure that their voices are heard. That’s not mob rule – it’s not a witch trial. It is, however, a result of the filibuster. If the protestors were pro-life and became rowdy to ensure that their message was heard and abortion was severely restricted, would we really be outraged at their antics? Or would we be grateful for their brazenness? Would we be angry at the money it cost taxpayers to curb abortion? I’m sure we could find cheaper forms of government – but I doubt we’d be happy living with them.
 
So you want poor women to murder babies and spend an eternity in hell? How democrat of you… my last response to you. Ignored. I suggest everyopne else do the same.
Well stop quoting them then. Because ignore doesn’t block out quoted posts.
 
Has anyone here watched the British Parliament in action? It’s rarely focused on decorum. ***I understand the arguments against those opposing this bill, but I can’t understand the outrage over those who loudly and publicly protested. Who cares? ***Gov. Perry’s just going to keep demanding special sessions. Whether I agree with protestors or not, it seems to be a byproduct of representative democracy. And decorum doesn’t exactly seem appropriate when connected with the topic of abortion.
Because the democratic process was derailed. Because the majority DID vote for the bill but it was dismissed due to a technicality. Thus the will of the people was thwarted by mob rule, by the loudest voices, by obstructionism rather than a credible argument.

Do you really think that our government should be based on who can round up the biggest loudmouths? REALLY?

Oh and I HAVE watched British Parliament. It’s often on CSPAN. And yes they are outspoken but it’s the legislators themselves who interject the comments or shout “hear hear” and other traditional comments of a British parliament either for or against the proposal. It’s actually quite entertaining with acerbic quips and amusing remarks.

That is a far cry from having a vote shouted down by what sounds like a group of rude and thuggish protests.

Lisa
 
Do you really think that our government should be based on who can round up the biggest loudmouths?
What do you think voting is, it’s basically rounding up the biggest loudmouths. Whoever can get the most people to the polls that will vote for them wins. The apathetic don’t vote in as high of numbers as those loudmouthed committed people.
 
I said it was a byproduct of representative democracy. Citizens want to ensure that their voices are heard. That’s not mob rule – it’s not a witch trial. It is, however, a result of the filibuster. If the protestors were pro-life and became rowdy to ensure that their message was heard and abortion was severely restricted, would we really be outraged at their antics? Or would we be grateful for their brazenness? Would we be angry at the money it cost taxpayers to curb abortion? I’m sure we could find cheaper forms of government – but I doubt we’d be happy living with them.
Totally disingenuous. And you presume facts not in evidence. WERE there any protestors on the pro life side disrupting the proceedings? Do you think most such votes are accompanied by howling banshees? The plan was not to have the people’s voices heard. This is a REPRESENTATIVE government, not the Polis in ancient Greece. We elect representatives and they are to speak for us. We can certainly weigh in before or after the vote with calls, letters, faxes. I often spend the time to write a letter to my Senators or Representatives…and they write back.

I honestly don’t think even YOU believe what you are saying but as a consistent supporter of these issues, I understand why you think you must make these claims.

Lisa
 
Because the democratic process was derailed. Because the majority DID vote for the bill but it was dismissed due to a technicality. Thus the will of the people was thwarted by mob rule, by the loudest voices, by obstructionism rather than a credible argument.

Do you really think that our government should be based on who can round up the biggest loudmouths? REALLY?

Oh and I HAVE watched British Parliament. It’s often on CSPAN. And yes they are outspoken but it’s the legislators themselves who interject the comments or shout “hear hear” and other traditional comments of a British parliament either for or against the proposal. It’s actually quite entertaining with acerbic quips and amusing remarks.

That is a far cry from having a vote shouted down by what sounds like a group of rude and thuggish protests.

Lisa
Everyone points to British Parliament, but they have many rules that aren’t necessarily obvious to us Americans. They have spirited debate, but they don’t allow 1,000 people off the street into the chambers to cause disruption of their proceedings. It’s not the same thing AT ALL.
 
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