Breaking: Trump fires acting AG for refusing to enforce travel ban

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She’s been replaced, but her replacement is not someone who has been confirmed by the Senate, so he cannot sign foreign surveillance warrants.
I am not sure about that. The US Attorneys are Senate confirmed, and he was confirmed for that job a couple years ago. Of course, they are not Senate confirmed for that purpose. So it is not clear to me if he could sign FISA warrants or not, or if there is anyone else left at DOJ main that could do so. We have not been in this situation before, so its kinda new ground. Like lots of stuff lately.
  1. New Acting AG can sign FISA Applications;
  2. Trump has both U.S. statutory and Constitutional law on his side.
Most commentators seem to be saying they don’t think he will have FISA authority because he was confirmed for a position without that authority. Again, I think it is unclear and I have not read the relevant statutes. It is also not clear to me that Yates was the only one at DOJ with FISA authority. I am guessing the FISA courts will figure out a way to find someone who can sign FISA warrants. If not, that would be a problem.
 
Last year, Obama’s immigration plan was blocked by the courts:

cnn.com/2016/06/23/politics/immigration-supreme-court/

So Mr. Trumps immigration plans could also be blocked by the courts.
Well anything is possible with the courts. However, I would argue there was a big difference between what Obama was trying to do and what Trump is doing. Obama was exceeding his authority by having the executive branch set immigration policy rather than carry out laws passed by Congress.
 
Well anything is possible with the courts. However, I would argue there was a big difference between what Obama was trying to do and what Trump is doing. Obama was exceeding his authority by having the executive branch set immigration policy rather than carry out laws passed by Congress.
So all Obama’s executive orders were exceeding his authority but none of Mr. Trump’s are? :rolleyes:
 
I have no strong opinion either way on the travel ban, but I think it likely she did what she did knowing that she would likely be fired. It seemed to be a highly political move with regards to an executive order that while controversial, is not necessarily unconstitutional. The President has wide discretion in setting immigration policy, and while there are serious legal questions about those who are currently stuck in limbo, I’m not so certain that the bulk of the order is unconstitutional. Travelers who are not U.S. citizens do not have a right to enter the country, and even obtaining a visa does not guarantee that you will be granted entry; that decision is made when you go through customs.
 
Thank God Yates was fired. Gambling with our lives for cheap political gains. Every nation has a right to decide who comes into our country and who could be a risk to our security. This is not unreasonable. Trump has the U.S. statutory and Constitutional law on his side, and Sally Yates knew it but ignored the role of the AG. She left Trump with no choice, she had to be fired.
Gambling with our lives for cheap political gains? She wasn’t gaining anything politically by refusing to enforce the travel ban. That was an act of principle, not politics. And “gambling with our lives?” That’s a little melodramatic, don’t you think?
 
I’ve noticed liberal government attorneys like to do this. They like to loudly take a stand defending our rights. Not against the surveillance state, unconstitutional searches or gun laws, or anything real of course. The Attorney General of NC refused to defend the state’s marriage ammendment and law against men using the women’s locker room. They made him governor for his dereliction of duty!
 
I’ve noticed liberal government attorneys like to do this. They like to loudly take a stand defending our rights. Not against the surveillance state, unconstitutional searches or gun laws, or anything real of course. The Attorney General of NC refused to defend the state’s marriage ammendment and law against men using the women’s locker room. They made him governor for his dereliction of duty!
It was the voters of NC who made him governor, apparently because many of them agreed with him.
 
That’s for the courts to decide. The fact the parts of his executive order were stayed already in federal courts, the judges in question probably believe that those parts will not be found to be legal.
All I can say is that President Trump has washed his hands of this mess. With all of these special interests and possibly legislating from the bench, if there is another terrorists attack on American soil, it’s not going to be hard to point the finger and even regressive liberal excuses may not be enough.
 
It was the voters of NC who made him governor, apparently because many of them agreed with him.
The same voters elected Trump. It is an odd set of results. Some say the AG and the city of Charlotte manufactured the issue to help him in his gubernatorial race. He certainly had time for such Machiavellian plans since he wasn’t ever in court doing his job.
 
All I can say is that President Trump has washed his hands of this mess. With all of these special interests and possibly legislating from the bench, if there is another terrorists attack on American soil, it’s not going to be hard to point the finger and even regressive liberal excuses may not be enough.
Not “legislating from the bench,” but “checks and balances”. That’s what our system of government is about.
 
Most commentators seem to be saying they don’t think he will have FISA authority because he was confirmed for a position without that authority. Again, I think it is unclear and I have not read the relevant statutes. It is also not clear to me that Yates was the only one at DOJ with FISA authority. I am guessing the FISA courts will figure out a way to find someone who can sign FISA warrants. If not, that would be a problem.
  • 50 U.S.C. § 1804(a) refers to an official confirmed by the Senate;
  • 50 U.S.C. § 1801(g) definition of the AG does not (same with AAG);
  • Boente = Senate confirmed in U.S. Attorney role;
  • AAG is authorized to sign FISAs, subject to time limits;
  • Vacancies Reform Act -1998, provides POTUS w/ significant latitude in appointing someone in an acting capacity;
  • 28 USC § 508 if neither the AG DAG is not available, the AAG “shall" act as AG;
  • Bill Baer stepped down last week - BUT
  • Obama signed EO Providing an Order of Succession within the DOJ basically allowing the POTUS sole authority in designating an acting AG
 
Gambling with our lives for cheap political gains? She wasn’t gaining anything politically by refusing to enforce the travel ban. That was an act of principle, not politics. And “gambling with our lives?” That’s a little melodramatic, don’t you think?
Disagree. She violated her role as AAG. It’s only melodramatic if you think there is no significant risk with our current vetting system.
 
So all Obama’s executive orders were exceeding his authority but none of Mr. Trump’s are? :rolleyes:
When the President allows the executive branch to set policy rather than carry out the laws passed by Congress you are exceeding your authority. There is respect for the Constitution and also on the limits of federal power.
 
50 U.S.C. § 1804(a) refers to an official confirmed by the Senate.
50 U.S.C. § 1801(g) definition of the AG does not (same with AAG)
Boente = Senate confirmed in U.S. Attorney role.
AAG is authorized to sign FISAs, subject to time limits.
Vacancies Reform Act -1998, provides POTUS w/ significant latitude in appointing someone in an acting capacity.
28 USC § 508 if neither the AG DAG is not available, the AAG “shall" act as AG.
Bill Baer stepped down last week but Obama signed EO Providing an Order of Succession within the DOJ basically allowing the POTUS sole authority in designating an acting AG.
I don’t think that gets you home. Thanks for providing the statute. It requires that the confirmed official be one “from among those executive officers employed in the area of national security or defense.” The US Attorney for the EDVA does not meet that description. The President can name acting officials under the Vacancies Reform Act, but there are lots of things that acting officials cannot do. This is one of them. It may be that they can find someone who can sign FISA warrants, but I don’t think it will be the acting AG.
 
@POTUS has named Dana Boente, US Attorney for the Eastern District of VA as Acting Attorney General. Sally Yates has been relieved.
twitter.com/PressSec/status/826252730389954560

Sally Yates (Obama appointee acting as Attorney General) sent out orders today to not defend the immigration EO. Trump just fired her

You don’t go against your boss and expect to stick around.
Watching the coverage of this most recent event on both FOX and MSNBC, I had to wonder once again whether this country is indeed living in two opposing worlds (or worldviews). It’s hard to know whether to laugh or cry.
 
I don’t think that gets you home. Thanks for providing the statute. It requires that the confirmed official be one “from among those executive officers employed in the area of national security or defense.” The US Attorney for the EDVA does not meet that description. The President can name acting officials under the Vacancies Reform Act, but there are lots of things that acting officials cannot do. This is one of them. It may be that they can find someone who can sign FISA warrants, but I don’t think it will be the acting AG.
True, but the VRA also states “Notwithstanding the provisions of this order, the President retains discretion, to the extent permitted by law, to depart from this order in designating an acting Attorney General.”

At any rate whether that is Boente or someone else seems like the FISA process will go forward.
 
She had character. She put the law above her own position. A profile in courage.
She wasn’t sticking around anyway. She was gone has soon as her official replacement took office.
 
She wasn’t going to be sticking around anyway, regardless of what she did. The only thing that is a little unusual about this is the timing. Normally you wait for the new AG to be confirmed.
Normally, the acting AG doesn’t publicly defy his/her boss.
 
That’s for the courts to decide. The fact the parts of his executive order were stayed already in federal courts, the judges in question probably believe that those parts will not be found to be legal.
Obama had EOs stayed and overturned by the courts too. Many Presidents have. It’s not uncommon.
 
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