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twf
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In fact, it ranks higher than the US on the “Democracy Index”…as do a number of constitutional monarchies.
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FiveLinden
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Yup. USA is 21st equal. There are ten constitutional monarchies ahead of it. Democracy is perfectly compatible with constitutional monarchy. I am a republican (in the anti-monarchist sense) but hate to see all the ill-informed comments from the US on monarchies. I remember once candidate for VP who thought foreign policy would be set through negotiations with the Queen of the UK and the US president.
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ltwin
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The British monarchy essentially pays for itself. In fact, the Crown Estate makes millions of pounds, most of which does not go to the Queen but is actually owned by the government. So, yeah, the Queen does not get her money from the tax payers but rather from inherited property.
The Crown Estate: Are we paying a queen's ransom for the royal family?
The monarch is due a pay rise next year thanks to a portfolio of land that goes back to the Norman Conquest
www.theweek.co.uk
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JackFrost
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England is a democracy unlike the USA which is not .
Yes , some people in the UK do want a republic rather than a monarchy , but they may as well be flogging a dead horse .
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Roseeurekacross
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As seen by the recent trip down under, Aussies are still quite happy to have Royalty ranked amongst their numbers.
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pulchraesamicamea
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I think, the Queen is the head of state, so respecting the Head of State is different from respecting God- and she is a Christian, also.
I am from a country where our monarchy was destroyed by another state. The royal family was either deported or murdered. So, a lot of people from my country are quite patriotic. Princess Deokhye, the favored daughter of Emperor Gojong, were locked up, unable to return to Korea, and was only able to return to Korea after 35 years. So when these stories were later made into movies, people cried buckets of tears.
I am from a country where our monarchy was destroyed by another state. The royal family was either deported or murdered. So, a lot of people from my country are quite patriotic. Princess Deokhye, the favored daughter of Emperor Gojong, were locked up, unable to return to Korea, and was only able to return to Korea after 35 years. So when these stories were later made into movies, people cried buckets of tears.
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Sarcelle
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Hawaii was also an independent kingdom and recognized as a sovereign country by a lot of other countries.
The US threatened the reigning queen at the time, Queen Liliuokalani, with violence to the city of Honolulu unless she abdicated.
I get irritated when Texans claim that their state was the only state that was an independent country before it became a state. Uhh, no. The Kingdom of Hawaii was also an independent country.
The US threatened the reigning queen at the time, Queen Liliuokalani, with violence to the city of Honolulu unless she abdicated.
I get irritated when Texans claim that their state was the only state that was an independent country before it became a state. Uhh, no. The Kingdom of Hawaii was also an independent country.
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semper_catholicus
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In fact, what you describe as being patriotic is a DUTY of a good catholic.
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IWantGod
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When did the monarchy become a figurehead role instead of a full fledged authority?
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Dan_Defender
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Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t the members of the House of Lords include clergy (Church of England) and nobles who inherit the seat such as sons of Dukes and such?
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WingsOfEagles
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The Queen is a political figure and you have no obligation to be loyal to her/patriotic towards England as far as you Catholic duties go. The agreement would have been more for the reverse issue. Catholics at one time had to worry about whether or not they would suffer consequences for being loyal to the Pope and the Catholic Church.
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theCardinalbird
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In my opinion, as a Canadian Catholic: I recognize the sovereignty of the Queen as a ceremonial monarch in my country, and I don’t mind having a Queen, I’m fine being patriotic towards her, except that I disagree with her being the head of the Church of England.
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And as a fellow Canadian Catholic I hereby call for an Australian-style referendum on whether or not the Queen of England should continue to be the head of state. I have all Quebeckers on my side ready to vote ‘No’ 
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But what will we put on our coins!?
Not that big a fan of Quebec…
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twf
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That doesn’t make the UK less democratic. Prior to the early 20th century, when the House of Lords exercised considerable real power, the UK was less democratic than it is today (as was the US as the voting franchise was much more restricted). The House of Lords has seen a lot of reform. Today the majority of voting members are appointed by the Queen on the advice of the Prime Minister/government of the day. Yes, they are lifelong appointments - but so are US Supreme Court justices, right? The Church of England bishops are also appointed and the elected politicians play a role there as well. Hereditary lords are no longer guaranteed a seat - they elect a subset from their own ranks to represent them. Ultimately the House of Lords has very limited power and can’t indefinitely hold up the agenda of the elected House of Commons.
The situation in Canada is quite comparable with our Senate. Senators are, like most members of the House of Lords, are appointed by the Queen on the advice of the Canadian Prime Minister of the day.
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Dan_Defender
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Any Canadian hero is ok with me to be on Canadian money. As for Quebec, la belle province, well agree to disagree.
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twf
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As Queen of Canada, she is not head of the Church of England. Her role in Canada is completely secular.
In fact, she is only officially Anglican in regards to her role in England. Even in Scotland she is, officially, Presbyterian. Go figure.
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What a terrifying thought…Canada becoming a sterile republican clone of the US… [shudders].
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