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Finite
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All of her children are being very supportive. The only person in the family who, while still voicing support, seems to be having trouble with this is Kris Jenner (which I think is totally understandable).
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That’s an assumption on your part. You really have no idea why people you don’t know do the things they do. People have cosmetic surgery to get on or stay on TV all the time. All Bruce is doing is having cosmetic surgery, admittedly a touch more radical than a breast enlargement, but cosmetic surgery none the less.
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estesbob
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So do his children now consider themselves to have two mothers? I mean they can’t refer to him as father as that would be insulting to his view of himself that may very well intensify his mental illness
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Patti_M
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Really? Vanity Fair Magazine isn’t about glamour?
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SpeakInSilence
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Chromosomes do not lie and no matter what changes he makes to the exterior of his body his genetic makeup will always be male.
The saddest part about this whole ordeal was how we no longer deal with disorders but simply “accept” them so illness can no longer be treated.
The saddest part about this whole ordeal was how we no longer deal with disorders but simply “accept” them so illness can no longer be treated.
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Patti_M
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This is a good point. He is 65 years old and to do something like this at the end of your life is just unreal to me. He needs serious help or at the least people who care about him should stop encouraging this.
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estesbob
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No. They’re about selling magazines
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gracepoole
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gracepoole
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No. Jenner told his children they can still use the term “Dad” to refer to her.
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estesbob
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O so he’s kind of a woman but he is really a dad ? Can you not see the absurdity of a comment "his"children can still refer to “her” as dad .? If you look at your second sentence you will see even you are having a hard time sorting his gender out This gets more and more bizarre by the minute
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gracepoole
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You’re assigning value to my comments when they were only meant to provide factual content. This is what Jenner has said. That’s all I was sharing. You’re inferring far too much from one sentence that didn’t in any way offer my own opinion.
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tomarin
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Obviously the only answer is to adopt gender-neutral pronouns. It’s only a logical next step after changing “actress” to “actor” and “waitress” to “waiter.”
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tomarin
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You could say he’s “more than a woman … more than a woman to me.”
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Patti_M
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Yeah, I already covered that. gracepool
How have you covered it? This guy obviously thinks he wants to be a woman. For what other reason does he want that excect something along the lines of sex and the getup he’s wearing is sexually suggestive. Should I not believe my lying eyes?
How have you covered it? This guy obviously thinks he wants to be a woman. For what other reason does he want that excect something along the lines of sex and the getup he’s wearing is sexually suggestive. Should I not believe my lying eyes?
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Vile. Disgusting. The fact that this isn’t being roundly condemned–and made mockery of–from pillar to post just illustrates that we are at a socio-economic stage where nothing matters except monetary profit and self-fulfillment. A late stage indeed. We all know that Bruce Jenner is, and always will be male, and there’s nothing he or anyone else can do to change this. Sadly, I think this is just another hint of the approaching End Times. And yes, we can never be sure of when exactly that will be. But, if we happen upon a woman who is obviously pregnant, we can be pretty sure she is going to give birth, even if we do not know exactly when. Thus it is with the End Times. They are “pregnant”; it’s only a question of when.
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gracepoole
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You really believe this is not psychological but is instead about wanting to be on the cover of a magazine? He’s been on many, many covers. Clearly, as I said earlier, there’s something happening at a deeper level. I can’t pretend to understand it fully. But to think Jenner’s undergone sex reassignment surgery for attention seems like a tremendous stretch. This is someone who enjoyed incredible amounts of attention before going to such an extreme measure.
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bibcat
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It’s a terrible sickness. Why we can’t recognize–or even say–that it’s an obvious mental illness just buttresses my earlier comment on the state of the nation (and world) today.
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gracepoole
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Again, this post seems to apply.Vile. Disgusting. The fact that this isn’t being roundly condemned–and made mockery of–from pillar to post just illustrates that we are at a socio-economic stage where nothing matters except monetary profit and self-fulfillment. A late stage indeed. We all know that Bruce Jenner is, and always will be male, and there’s nothing he or anyone else can do to change this. Sadly, I think this is just another hint of the approaching End Times. And yes, we can never be sure of when exactly that will be. But, if we happen upon a woman who is obviously pregnant, we can be pretty sure she is going to give birth, even if we do not know exactly when. Thus it is with the End Times. They are “pregnant”; it’s only a question of when.
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gracepoole
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If it’s a mental illness why would we want to use words like “vile” and “disgusting” to refer to it?
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bibcat
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This never would have happened in 1950. We were far more fit, morally, back then. This is a shining example of today’s decadence, and joking about does not help matters.
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