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If they repent of their sins they are welcome just like all sinners are.
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Teelynn
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What really doesn’t help the situation are the Churchmen and even those Churchmen in very high positions in the Church that want to actually change the language of SS relationships and attractions according to Church teaching from ‘disordered’ to (something to the effect of) ‘unique’. Excuse, as I cannot remember the exact word they want to use, but in effect it means ‘unique’ or ‘different’. This is to me extremely detrimental to our out reach to the gay community inside the Church. It gives them complete validity for their SS relationships and unions without them changing one iotta of their lifestyle. This is not my idea of reaching out to that community, it’s really an injustice and not at all charitable to confirm them in their sin. This kind of move within the Church is not the stuff that saves souls. This is the stuff that leads souls to their eternal demise. If anything, the Church should be working toward helping those people see the fallacy of their situation and telling them WHY their situation is detrimental to their life, both here and hereafter. To me anyway, that is ‘walking with those’ in irregular situations. That’s the essence of ‘Pastoral Care’. Not confirming them in their sin. It gives people a false sense of righteousness to tell them that there is ‘value’ and ‘goodness’ in SS relationships as I’ve heard from too many of our hierarchy even publicly! As we’ve seen too many times before, the Church seems to sometimes throw the baby out with the bath water in trying to connect with people. Their ‘theory’ is that if you bring them to the Church ‘as they are’ you can always bring them to full conversion later, and that ‘conversion’ is ongoing, so there is always ‘later’. Meanwhile, they’re putting out the word that it’s a ‘good’ thing to be in a gay relationship? Pretty dangerous and not even very effective if you ask me.
I think the truth of Jesus in the Gospel is always a good draw for people in ANY situation.
I think the truth of Jesus in the Gospel is always a good draw for people in ANY situation.
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Mongo
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The popular thing now is to turn Christianity into humanism. Socialism, world peace, and social inclusion are the goal. There is no longer any concept of teleology. It is becoming synonymous with Utopianism.
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Randolph
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To amplify your thoughts, for a lack of a better term, let’s call it “progressivism”. It has spread its poison into the Church and into the Church hierarchy. I am yet ready to call it a “heresy”, but it is getting close. It’s been doing serious damages to the Church, and its been creating divisions within the Church. The credibility and unity of the Catholic Church are at stake, and souls are highly at risk. At some point in the future, possibly beyond my time on this earth, a future pope will call it a heresy, and will condemn it. It will be similar to what Pope St. Pius X did in 1907 in his encyclical “PASCENDI DOMINICI GREGIS.”
My faith remains firmly with Christ’s promise that He would always protect the Church from the gates of hell.
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OraLabora
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From yesterday’s Office of Readings, second reading. A sermon by Saint Augustine on the Old Testament (my translation from French; my Liturgy of the Hours is in French):
Clearly wise words from a great saint, and one who has “been there and done that” having lived his own life of debauchery that gave his poor mother Saint Monica, much grief before his conversion.
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