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murtad
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Who is Rev. Jeremiah Wright? I was told he is Zimbabwean President Robert G. Mugabe’s spiritual leader. If this is not so, please correct me.
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BamaRider
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Murtad is wanting to know-
If that doesn’t work, Google his name, and come up to speed.
Go to YouTube and do a search on Jeremiah Wright and watch a few of his sermons. I’d tell ya here, but it probably won’t fly with the moderators because political names will have to be used.
If that doesn’t work, Google his name, and come up to speed.
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Walt_Oliver
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Another reminder:
The rumored conversion or possible conversion of public figures is not allowed. This includes the president. Recent posts making mention of this have been edited.
The rumored conversion or possible conversion of public figures is not allowed. This includes the president. Recent posts making mention of this have been edited.
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pontoon
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I think President Bush is the first Catholic President. Certainly Kennedy was a JACK Catholic (by name only) he and brother slept around on their wives and still called themselves Catholic. Bush’s supreme court appointments CATHOLIC, he is anti abortion and against embronic stem cell reseach and he has tried to spread democracy through out the world. I agree George W. Bush the first Catholic President
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KatieD
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To the poster who said that it is protocol for leaders to meet with the Pope, that is correct; however, this is the first time the President has met another leader at Andrews Air Force Base as he did, so please don’t give the impression that this is done all the time. The truth is that there are some people who will never give this president credit for any of the good he has done because of their hatred for him. That is quite sad and frankly, discussions with people like that are pointless.
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pontoon
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Well said Katie D
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buffalo
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bellesjoy
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Very good point! Someone also wouldn’t give Bush credit for the SCjustices…naive to believe he didn’t back Alito and Roberts. And good for him to be surrounded by those who would suggest men of this caliber.
It doesn’t matter if you call him Catholic, he’s gone to the mat for the unborn. In that regard he has acted more Catholic than any president. Without the defense of life, other issues do not matter.
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BamaRider
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Bellesjoy says-
M’am I agree with ya, but there’s alooooot of Catholics who don’t wanna here* that*.
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MelanieAnne
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It’s been my experience that many of those Catholics who put no particular priority on “life” issues (saying it’s a matter of personal choice, etc.) tend to be the same ones who call him “Mr. Bush”. For them, he’s not only not the 1st Catholic President, he’s not even the President. They have never accepted him as validly elected and their lingering bitterness is expressed in a variety of ways, including a refusal to even recognize him as the President of the USA. 
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Shoshana
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chicago
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Don’t you recall how Bill Clinton looked like a kid in a candy store walking around with the pope at the airport in St. Louis?
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aimee
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I remember many things about former President Clinton. But President Bush is the first to officially go to meet the Pope.
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chicago
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You are wrong. John Paul even practically took the President to task publically and to his face when standing next to him and comparing abortion to slavery in speaking how of how the Dred Scott case was initially tried in St. Louis.I remember many things about former President Clinton. But President Bush is the first to officially go to meet the Pope.
Bush is the first to “officially” invite the pope to a formal ceremony at the White House, however.
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aimee
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apples and oranges my friend…besides you know what I meant…glad to see you admit it
Is Rev Wright as good a friend to Father P as I assume? I am begining to see the relationship with the group …
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Dee_Dee_King
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i’m guilty of complaining harshly about him. but, he has done very good things and i don’t regret voting for him 2x.
the fact that he treated B16 with so much respect makes me regretful that i doubted he was a good guy. in the end, the supreme court justices will be his legacy, and hopefully a democratic stable iraq. he may be looked upon by historians as a great president, despite his poor approval ratings.
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IvanKaramozov
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I think William F. Buckely put it best when he responded to the question of, “Will President Bush be vindicated by History” by saying that even if Bush himself wrote the Bill of Rights, it STILL woulden’t make up for Iraq.
The only matter for history to decided is weather Mr. Bush was tragically incompetant, or criminally guilty.
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john1863
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This truly has to be one of the most ridiculous threads I have seen in my years on this forum. It couldn’t be hopeful thinking or politics…could it?
Our president is no more a Catholic, than I am a president.
JFK was a true Catholic…he received the last rites, and died in the good graces of the Church. If you don’t like that, call the Vatican.
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Our president is no more a Catholic, than I am a president.
JFK was a true Catholic…he received the last rites, and died in the good graces of the Church. If you don’t like that, call the Vatican.
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dannymuniz
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JFK was a true Catholic? If he was baptized then he was a true Catholic. Did he live out his faith? Now that is a different question. I don’t think you mean to imply you have inside information as to his state of grace or separation from God at the moment of his death.
Last rites? Isn’t the sacrament of extreme unction for the living? Whatever prayers a priest may have said over the dead body cannot be called the annointing of the sick.
And JFK died in the good graces of the Church? Why, because he was not ex-communicated? See above regarding his soul.
JFK made it clear that his quest for power superceded his loyalty to the Church. I don’t know about his soul either, but I am not proud that he was the only Catholic president.
Last rites? Isn’t the sacrament of extreme unction for the living? Whatever prayers a priest may have said over the dead body cannot be called the annointing of the sick.
And JFK died in the good graces of the Church? Why, because he was not ex-communicated? See above regarding his soul.
JFK made it clear that his quest for power superceded his loyalty to the Church. I don’t know about his soul either, but I am not proud that he was the only Catholic president.
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chicago
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No, I didn’t know what you meant and you were articulating yourself quite poorly and incorrectly if what you intended to say what that this President was the first to invite a pope to the White House for formal bilateral honoring of a head of State. While this is certainly a significant and important step in historically sticky U.S. - Vatican relations, it in no way ought to diminish the value of previous Presidents officially greeting predecessor popes at the airports where they initially landed; especially considering that this is about the the only real opportunity one has had considering it is the first papal visit to Washington, D.C. since Jimmy Carter’s administration was in the White House 30 years ago during the 1979 trip of John Paul II.
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