Cain Surges in Latest Gallup

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HERMAN CAIN raises the roof at Values summit with ‘no exceptions’ pro-life, pro-family message - - -

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I’ve liked Mr. Cain since he came on the radar… BUT (there’s always a but), I still don’t believe that at this moment conservatives, by enlarge, believe he has any chance of defeating President Obama and therefore he probably will not win the primary. I hope that I’m wrong but unfortunately, the right as a whole, wants the best possible candidate who they think will win the general election and right now, Mr. Cain is not the person they believe who can do this. That said, he has the heart of a true Catholic (I know he’s Baptist but I stand by my statement anyway :D).
 
Tietjen said:
I’ve liked Mr. Cain since he came on the radar… BUT (there’s always a but), I still don’t believe that at this moment conservatives, by enlarge, believe he has any chance of defeating President Obama and therefore he probably will not win the primary. I hope that I’m wrong but unfortunately, the right as a whole, wants the best possible candidate who they think will win the general election and right now, Mr. Cain is not the person they believe who can do this. That said, he has the heart of a true Catholic (I know he’s Baptist but I stand by my statement anyway :D).
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Don’t fall for the main stream media ploy, PLEASE! Herman Cain is the BEST possible candidate who can beat Obama…thats why MSM is rooting for Romney. Romney is the one who could not possibly win the next general election. Did everyone get amnesia? Don’t we all remember the boondoggle of the last election. We need Herman Cain if we want to clean out the WH and set things right for freedom in this country.
 
I think Cain has what it takes to go the distance. I also think that unfortunatly if he beats obama it will be because he’s black. I’d go so far to say that because of race he’s probably the only one who can.

Lets be honest here. What the canidates promised in 08 had little impact on who was actually elected. It was all about a motto and getting the first black man into the whitehouse.
 
Tietjen said:
I’ve liked Mr. Cain since he came on the radar… BUT (there’s always a but), I still don’t believe that at this moment conservatives, by enlarge, believe he has any chance of defeating President Obama and therefore he probably will not win the primary. I hope that I’m wrong but unfortunately, the right as a whole, wants the best possible candidate who they think will win the general election and right now, Mr. Cain is not the person they believe who can do this. That said, he has the heart of a true Catholic (I know he’s Baptist but I stand by my statement anyway :D).
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There were a LOT of people that were saying that a black man was not electable as president in 2008. I’ve just done a bit of reading up on Herman Cain, and he’d get my vote.

Nothing is impossible for God. If Herman Cain is His man, He will get it done.
 
Best is “subjective” his 999 financial proposal is a disaster which has zero indication of working, and it places enormous tax on guess who…the Middle Class.🤷

Also as far as campaign funding Cain is going to have to raise more funds or he won’t even be a viable candidate. Of Course Obama has the most funding followed by Perry, Romney. Some where below comes Paul.

I like his Pro-Life message, however Heath as we spoke about on many thread here, is but one aspect of Government control. There are Seven. Religion is another he is in line with. The most important today is “economy”. Yes we all want Pro-Life and a Christian based society, its gonna happen regardless who gets in. I doubt you could get in otherwise. We would all love to see a devote Christian. But we must turn the economy around “correctly” not with some half-cocked plan one “thinks” might works. There’s a well paved, proven path to success in this country. All you have do is follow it with a 100% effort.

Peace
 
GaryTaylor said:
Best is “subjective” his 999 financial proposal is a disaster which has zero indication of working, and it places enormous tax on guess who…the Middle Class.🤷

Also as far as campaign funding Cain is going to have to raise more funds or he won’t even be a viable candidate. Of Course Obama has the most funding followed by Perry, Romney. Some where below comes Paul.

I like his Pro-Life message, however Heath as we spoke about on many thread here, is but one aspect of Government control. There are Seven. Religion is another he is in line with. The most important today is “economy”. Yes we all want Pro-Life and a Christian based society, its gonna happen regardless who gets in. I doubt you could get in otherwise. We would all love to see a devote Christian. But we must turn the economy around “correctly” not with some half-cocked plan one “thinks” might works. There’s a well paved, proven path to success in this country. All you have do is follow it with a 100% effort.

Peace
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No, you have to turn the economy around AND promote a culture of life. Otherwise, will it matter?

Do you honestly think God will let us thrive economically if we continue to shun Him and turn our backs on him? The plan in question simply won’t matter if we do not promote a culture of life.
 
A former member of the Federal Reserve System being a conservative? Yeh, right.
 
GaryTaylor said:
Best is “subjective” his 999 financial proposal is a disaster which has zero indication of working, and it places enormous tax on guess who…the Middle Class.🤷

Also as far as campaign funding Cain is going to have to raise more funds or he won’t even be a viable candidate. Of Course Obama has the most funding followed by Perry, Romney. Some where below comes Paul.

I like his Pro-Life message, however Heath as we spoke about on many thread here, is but one aspect of Government control. There are Seven. Religion is another he is in line with. The most important today is “economy”. Yes we all want Pro-Life and a Christian based society, its gonna happen regardless who gets in. I doubt you could get in otherwise. We would all love to see a devote Christian. But we must turn the economy around “correctly” not with some half-cocked plan one “thinks” might works. There’s a well paved, proven path to success in this country. All you have do is follow it with a 100% effort.

Peace
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Cain does seem to have several (that I have heard speak to the issue) economists that believe his plan is good. Paul Ryan has enthusiastically endorsed it. That makes it pretty good in my mind. And before we slam it, let’s wait and see specifics. I am sure they are forthcoming. In any event, who do you think would be better as president?
 
He_Man said:
No, you have to turn the economy around AND promote a culture of life.
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Right and Cains plan to turn the economy around has NO guarentee of success, did you miss that? It place’s the greatest tax on those under 6-figures did you also miss that? Did you also miss the part of what I DO like about him???
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Otherwise, will it matter?.
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So your plan is Government based on Faith alone, Ummm not how the US government works sorry to inform you. You have to convince all those non-Christian of your idea and I doubt its possible. You preaching to the choir. You need a viable financial plan CAIN does not have one. There are many who are Pro-Life who DO have a viable finacial plan. Sorry
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Do you honestly think God will let us thrive economically if we continue to shun Him and turn our backs on him?.
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Did I say he would? In case you missed that part of my post I’m Pro-Life a practicing Catholic and believe in Religious Freedom and the foundation the US was built on. 🤷
He_Man said:
The plan in question simply won’t matter if we do not promote a culture of life.
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Who is “NOT” promoting a culture of life. Go read my posts and see what I promote before you “assume”. :confused:

Peace
 
I like Cain and Romney. I have completely gone off Perry because he can not debate, I saw a clip of where somebody confronted him on the issue of abstinence education and he could hardly defend it. He needs more time, 4 to 8 years.
 
mary_bobo said:
Cain does seem to have several (that I have heard speak to the issue) economists that believe his plan is good. Paul Ryan has enthusiastically endorsed it. That makes it pretty good in my mind. And before we slam it, let’s wait and see specifics. I am sure they are forthcoming. In any event, who do you think would be better as president?
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Again his 999 plan is unproven, there is no guarentee, and no-one is “slamming” him. Sorry you interpret opinion as insult.

I’m not sure who I will vote for. The only one I see with a solid financial plan is Paul. I’m not sure the best candidate has even come foward yet. Its a pick your poison situation as I have stated.

Peace
 
_Abyssinia said:
I like Cain and Romney. I have completely gone off Perry because he can not debate, I saw a clip of where somebody confronted him on the issue of abstinence education and he could hardly defend it. He needs more time, 4 to 8 years.
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Perry has a lot of financial backing as does Romney. Perry I really believe should have distanced himself the Southern Baptist remarks which to date I’m not sure he has. They were uncalled for with Mormons, and the same SB has little good to say about Catholics.

Romney was a very good Gov, of Mass. I don’t dislike him, my fathers side of my family is from Boston. He also has very good financial backing. Second only to Obama.

Cain I already voiced my “concern” on. 😉

Peace
 
What is to stop the 9-9-9 plan from becoming the 20-20-20 plan over a future Pelosi?

You either have an income tax or a sales tax, you can’t have both.

This plan also comes from the guy who didn’t recognize the Housing Bubble ([ronpaul2012.com/2011/10/13/ca(name removed by moderator)aul-on-the-housing-bubble/](http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/10/13/ca(name removed by moderator)aul-on-the-housing-bubble/)) (ronpaul2012.com/2011/10/13/video-paulcain-comparison-on-housing-bubble/) and thought the economy was on “sound footing” ONE WEEK before it crashed.
 
SwordofLight said:
What is to stop the 9-9-9 plan from becoming the 20-20-20 plan over a future Pelosi?

You either have an income tax or a sales tax, you can’t have both.

This plan also comes from the guy who didn’t recognize the Housing Bubble ([ronpaul2012.com/2011/10/13/ca(name removed by moderator)aul-on-the-housing-bubble/](http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/10/13/ca(name removed by moderator)aul-on-the-housing-bubble/)) (ronpaul2012.com/2011/10/13/video-paulcain-comparison-on-housing-bubble/) and thought the economy was on “sound footing” ONE WEEK before it crashed.
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Which party would do that?

Democrats couldn’t campaign in name of the poor with a promise to raise their sales tax.

Republicans couldn’t campaign in the name of business’s with a promise to raise their sales tax.

What would stop it from becoming a third rail issue?

Cain’s plan get’s rid of income taxes, it does away with hidden taxes that you already purchase and places a tax that is transparent so everyone knows exactly what they are paying.

Not that I believe he could get it passed, but I like the idea better than income taxes.
 
Tietjen said:
I’ve liked Mr. Cain since he came on the radar… BUT (there’s always a but), I still don’t believe that at this moment conservatives, by enlarge, believe he has any chance of defeating President Obama and therefore he probably will not win the primary. I hope that I’m wrong but unfortunately, the right as a whole, wants the best possible candidate who they think will win the general election and right now, Mr. Cain is not the person they believe who can do this. That said, he has the heart of a true Catholic (I know he’s Baptist but I stand by my statement anyway :D).
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I believe in Herman Cain and I would urge people also to read his book. Meanwhile, I’m going to “storm the heavens” and particularly Mary to help with this.

Mr. Cain can really speak to the people, and he seems humble. As for his 9-9-9- plan, it may not pass anyway but its’ giving a wake up call to the media and everyone else. At least he has a plan, and he’s definitely a “family man”. Kudos to for him keeping his family out of this, unless of course he’s nominated. I’m praying really hard that he will be nominated and furthermore beat Obama, but it is in the Lord’s hands.
 
I like Cain. He’s always either my second or third choice depending on the day (he and Johnson switch daily). But I don’t like his statements on the Federal Reserve and his connections with the Fed. But I’d take him over Romney and Perry any day of the week.

I like that he’s plain spoken and can connect with people. In the 90’s he debated Clinton and won, now if he debates Obama not only will he win the debate, but also the Presidency.

Also, unlike Romney (and to some extent Perry), you know where he stands on the issues. Cain, Paul, and Johnson are some of the more consistent candidates in the race.

When I first heard of his candidacy, I was like, “Radio host runs for president? Just another perennial candidate with no shot.” But he has a shot.

And just a warning: In 2008 we allowed the MSM, NYTimes, to pick our candidate for us. Don’t let them do it again.

I wish Citizen Cain the best.
 
I just watched him on MEET THE PRESS. When it comes to abortion, his exception is when it comes to saving a mother’s life. He said, if that were the situation, then the FAMILY would have to make the decision. So he is not completely pro life, if you believe there is such a thing.

Also, he finally tried to further explain his 999 plan. He had to admit that taxes will go up for some, but he insisted not for all. By the time he finished, it was clear that the middle class and the poor will suffer under his tax plan. For that reason, he will not get the GOP nomination.

He’s giving it a good try though. But it still looks like the GOP is stuck with Romney.

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Personanongrata said:
But it still looks like the GOP is stuck with Romney.

:yawn:
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“Mitt Romney” on SNL last night said, "Before going home with Mitt Romney, [voters] are going to take one last lap around the bar to see if there’s anyone better than me, and I’m okay with that.”
 
The idea of flat tax has brought countries from the brink of disaster to ecomomic boom. Infact, some of the only fiscally solvent countries have a flat tax and they all have low unemployment.
 
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