Calling all former Muslims!

[planten]

W0w brother,nice reply.I think It should be my reply also.But I just want to add something in my answer to this OP.and that is the violent verses of koran are also the cause of my conversion.Though I told it many times but for this thread I answered again .Finally thank you for your very nice post.You made my work easy with your post,because I can not explain so nicely like you.:hug1:

**Please do not over praise each other for your mistakes / misunderstandings. It is not a good thing.

You have mentioned the violent verses in the Quran. You have the bible OT. Are there any violent verses in that Book? Yes or NO. If “Yes” then what did you do about those verses. In those verses they did not even spare the women and children. Please be kind and honest and balanced person.**

 

[Cinette]

According to Al-Jazeerah’s interview with Sheikh Ahmad Al Katani, the president of The Companions Lighthouse for the Science of Islamic Law in Libya, In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity.

Everyday, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Every year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity.

youtube.com/watch?v=xdVnILalpeo

How many of these are still alive to tell their story or do they hide their Christian faith?

 

[Angelos]

Hello and good mornin,

Ya know, when you instigate trouble, you ask for it. When you throw things out there without knowing the details of Islamic knowledge, you ask for trouble. It isn’t the Muslims, it is the sarcasm you bring into your own threads that makes a Muslim HAVE to defend idiotic statements that you think you understand but you don’t and if we don’t reply to them, you say we never answer your questions…so hypocritical and then you bash the Muslims…so typical.

This is based on what? Similarites? You don’t think all the Prophets (peace be upon them all) taught the same message? Look how many prophets were sent to the Jews and nothing was changed…except a need for more prophets since they kept and still are disobeying God. Mohammad (sws) never stole or took from anyone. If you recall, what you claim as truth is no where near Islam…Islam teaches Monotheism, you teach polytheism.

You think an illiterate person, no reading or writing would even take from books that aren’t original and pass them off on his own? Do you really think that Mohammad (sws) stole from the Bible and the Torah (which are in no way preserved), which have plagiarism inside its own Bible******, you really think that a man such as this would even want to claim the Bible as truth? The Bible is on its own…can’t stand up to the Quran in every way shape or form…it’s not original, the words were never kept and preserved…unknown authors of the Bible, stories I wouldn’t say to my children even, and science…well, the first page states the day was made before the sun…you really think Mohammad (sws) would take from this book??? He was not a stupid man…he was known throughout Arabia as the most trustworthy of men~~even amongst the disbelievers~the idol worshipers.

No where in the Quran does Mohammad (sws) ever say he wrote it. He never claimed it from himself nor did he ever say he was in charge of creating it. These claims are false that you have put out there …no mistake in it. You can say beliefs contradict your belief, but that does not make mistakes.

You claim that the God of all prophets, you think that the messages He sent would be different? Are you underestimating what our Creator has sent or sends? You blame a prophet of God for God’s message…you have no clue and you cannot say that just because he knew about them, that this is the reason they are similar…you have no proof whatsoever! What you should do is ask why there is plagiarism in your own bible to your Christian Theologians!

So you use a time limit and think it is ridiculous? You put a limit to our Creator? You think time is an issue? Silly…look how long they lived in the past…or don’t you know history? And you claim time is an issue lol.

He was a chosen messenger of God. He didn’t choose himself. One should not underestimate the abilities of God.

americanrevert

Stick to the topic and avoid hijacking this thread. I hope you will understand what I mean. Thanks

 

[Cinette]

He holds a grudge. Simple and means to spread rudeness around from it. That is totally unchristian like. and I am not offended personally, he doesn’t make me any the more the person I am or any less…he is just rude as if many people on here would admit~if they are honest, I have done nothing to him but he just is rude in return.

to each his own…you can leave my name out of your conversations if you don’t want my replies. You say you were gonna ignore and then lie about it and then continue to be mean… Someone has a hangup and it isn’t me.

americanrevert

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[dolphinlove]

It is amazing to be loved by the Lord and His chosen ones on these threads.

Thats what strong and determined belief, love and worship does to his (Jesus) people, it brings us all together in all sorts of ways!
Just knowing we all have our deep belief in him brings out a great love in all of us, even if we dont know each other face to face or personally!


Sorry, back on topic…

 

[planten]

Hey my dear brother! :hug1:

Long time, no see. You are finally here.
Please write your conversion story too. We all are equally precious in our Lord’s sight. He talks to our hearts in different languages to convey the same truth.

angelos, I did not read your conversion story because it was too long and fine print. Anyhow, I know that you are a mistaken person. We thank God that you left islam. Nobody should celebrate, the christians and the Muslims too. Nobody should be happy. It may be your wrong move. But you are on your own, free to do what you like.

 

[Psalter]

Hello and good mornin,

Ya know, when you instigate trouble, you ask for it. When you throw things out there without knowing the details of Islamic knowledge, you ask for trouble. It isn’t the Muslims, it is the sarcasm you bring into your own threads that makes a Muslim HAVE to defend idiotic statements that you think you understand but you don’t and if we don’t reply to them, you say we never answer your questions…so hypocritical and then you bash the Muslims…so typical.

This is based on what? Similarites? You don’t think all the Prophets (peace be upon them all) taught the same message? Look how many prophets were sent to the Jews and nothing was changed…except a need for more prophets since they kept and still are disobeying God. Mohammad (sws) never stole or took from anyone. If you recall, what you claim as truth is no where near Islam…Islam teaches Monotheism, you teach polytheism.

You think an illiterate person, no reading or writing would even take from books that aren’t original and pass them off on his own? Do you really think that Mohammad (sws) stole from the Bible and the Torah (which are in no way preserved), which have plagiarism inside its own Bible******, you really think that a man such as this would even want to claim the Bible as truth? The Bible is on its own…can’t stand up to the Quran in every way shape or form…it’s not original, the words were never kept and preserved…unknown authors of the Bible, stories I wouldn’t say to my children even, and science…well, the first page states the day was made before the sun…you really think Mohammad (sws) would take from this book??? He was not a stupid man…he was known throughout Arabia as the most trustworthy of men~~even amongst the disbelievers~the idol worshipers.

No where in the Quran does Mohammad (sws) ever say he wrote it. He never claimed it from himself nor did he ever say he was in charge of creating it. These claims are false that you have put out there …no mistake in it. You can say beliefs contradict your belief, but that does not make mistakes.

You claim that the God of all prophets, you think that the messages He sent would be different? Are you underestimating what our Creator has sent or sends? You blame a prophet of God for God’s message…you have no clue and you cannot say that just because he knew about them, that this is the reason they are similar…you have no proof whatsoever! What you should do is ask why there is plagiarism in your own bible to your Christian Theologians!

So you use a time limit and think it is ridiculous? You put a limit to our Creator? You think time is an issue? Silly…look how long they lived in the past…or don’t you know history? And you claim time is an issue lol.

He was a chosen messenger of God. He didn’t choose himself. One should not underestimate the abilities of God.

americanrevert

AmericanRevert, I know you guys have a tendency to hijack things but can you at least not hijack this thread, please?

K thanks bye!

 

[Angelos]

angelos, I did not read your conversion story because it was too long and fine print. Anyhow, I know that you are a mistaken person. We thank God that you left islam. Nobody should celebrate, the christians and the Muslims too. Nobody should be happy. It may be your wrong move. But you are on your own, free to do what you like.

You should not have felt yourself obliged to comment on my conversion
You should never leave Islam.
Thanks for granting me freedom

 

[planten]

It is amazing to be loved by the Lord and His chosen ones on these threads.

**Those who are loved by God have different outlook on life. They do not abuse any one. They do not hate any one. They are visited by angels and they get good news from the Lord the Only God, Creator of the universe. They walk gently on the earth and do not trample on the rights of others. They do not indulge in self praise.

I hope there must be some such people in christianity. There used to be Saints in monastries. We thank God such a person has been born here now amongst the christians. Well Done.**

 

[dolphinlove]

angelos, I did not read your conversion story because it was too long and fine print. Anyhow, I know that you are a mistaken person. We thank God that you left islam. Nobody should celebrate, the christians and the Muslims too. Nobody should be happy. It may be your wrong move. But you are on your own, free to do what you like.

I thank God he did leave Islam, praise to be Lord Jesus Christ.

Nobody should celebrate, the christians and the Muslims too.
Nobody should be happy.

You are a very sad individual, Jesus showed Angelos the way, he showed him the truth.
Your words are from hate and jealousy.
The problem is, you have the perfect chance here to learn the truth and embrace Jesus, but you will not open your heart to him. I honestly think you are afraid too.

You show me proof that Angelos was EVER wrong in ANY debate with you… All i ever see is you bringing up false accusations and false and twisted meaning of the quran to satisfy your own personal views.

Please retract everything you said about my brother in Christ, because it was rude and uncalled for.
This is the true Islam, because you are constantly defeated, you go on the attack.

The answer is simple Planten, become a Christian, and you wont feel that hate any longer!

 

[dolphinlove]

**Those who are loved by God have different outlook on life. They do not abuse any one. They do not hate any one. They are visited by angels and they get good news from the Lord the Only God, Creator of the universe. They walk gently on the earth and do not trample on the rights of others. They do not indulge in self praise.

I hope there must be some such people in christianity. There used to be Saints in monastries. We thank God such a person has been born here now amongst the christians. Well Done.**

There is, you just described Angelos!
Does not abuse
Does not hate.
He gets good news from Jesus.
He walks gently on the earth and does not indulge in self praise.
Yes, we do thank God for Angelos!
Well done Planten, you have the potential to be Christian after all!

 

[planten]

Stick to the topic and avoid hijacking this thread. I hope you will understand what I mean. Thanks

**Angelos, we understand. When some one is criticising why did God wait for 600 years to send another prophet. It was a bad question made up without thinking. The questioner never realised that God waited 1400 years after Moses to send Jesus. Why did God do that?. 1400 years is much more than 600 years.

Please you should tell that friend not to raise such objections to Islam. He should look to his own system too in his own backyard.**

 

[planten]

I thank God he did leave Islam, praise to be Lord Jesus Christ.

You are a very sad individual, Jesus showed Angelos the way, he showed him the truth.
Your words are from hate and jealousy.
The problem is, you have the perfect chance here to learn the truth and embrace Jesus, but you will not open your heart to him. I honestly think you are afraid too.

You show me proof that Angelos was EVER wrong in ANY debate with you… All i ever see is you bringing up false accusations and false and twisted meaning of the quran to satisfy your own personal views.

Please retract everything you said about my brother in Christ, because it was rude and uncalled for.
This is the true Islam, because you are constantly defeated, you go on the attack.

The answer is simple Planten, become a Christian, and you wont feel that hate any longer!

DiL, thanks for the advice and invitation. I am already a christian and a Jew and a Hindu and Budhist. I am full of praise for Joseph son of Jacob, and Moses and Jesus. I have Abraham and Jesus and Moses with me. I am not missing anything. Thanks again for your invitation.

 

[dolphinlove]

DiL, thanks for the advice and invitation. I am already a christian and a Jew and a Hindu and Budhist. I am full of praise for Joseph son of Jacob, and Moses and Jesus. I have Abraham and Jesus and Moses with me. I am not missing anything. Thanks again for your invitation.

Question, how can you be all of those things?
Is this your confession you are a former Muslim?
That is what this thread is about, come on, share your story.

 

[Psalter]

**Angelos, we understand. When some one is criticising why did God wait for 600 years to send another prophet. It was a bad question made up without thinking. The questioner never realised that God waited 1400 years after Moses to send Jesus. Why did God do that?. 1400 years is much more than 600 years.

Please you should tell that friend not to raise such objections to Islam. He should look to his own system too in his own backyard.**

God’s revelation to man was completed in Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh. The end. There is no other prophet after him.

 

[Zlatan]

Zdravo Angelos

Im glad to read you converted to christianity but why did you become orthodox? i bet that didnt go down with your family after what the orthodox serbs did to the muslims there. But then again its even more suprising that bosnian muslims still follow that religion after what the turks did to our people for hundreds of years. Bosnian muslims all have christian ancestry but it has been lost to them due to the turkish subjugation of bosnia. So rather than it being a case you converting to christianity, you are just regaining your lost heritage:thumbsup:

 

[planten]

God’s revelation to man was completed in Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh. The end. There is no other prophet after him.

Okay, Okay, No harm. But the question was about why did the flesh arrive 1400 years after Moses a.s. Why so late?

 

[Angelos]

There is, you just described Angelos!
Does not abuse
Does not hate.
He gets good news from Jesus.
He walks gently on the earth and does not indulge in self praise.
Yes, we do thank God for Angelos!
Well done Planten, you have the potential to be Christian after all!

You are so kind and nice, thanks dear chosen one in Christ! :hug3:

 

[Angelos]

Okay, Okay, No harm. But the question was about why did the flesh arrive 1400 years after Moses a.s. Why so late?

The Word did not become flesh to correct the supposed mistakes and deviations in Judaism after the alleged corruption of the Jewish Bible. You Muslims mistakenly presume that Mohammad came 600 years after Christ to tell people the truth about Jesus and His teachings. This is ridiculous!

Moses and the prophets came first: Time of the promises and preparation for the Savior Messiah.

Incarnation took place: Time of the fulfillment of the promises and accomplishment of salvation in the Messiah.

 

[Angelos]

Zdravo Angelos

Im glad to read you converted to christianity but why did you become orthodox? i bet that didnt go down with your family after what the orthodox serbs did to the muslims there. But then again its even more suprising that bosnian muslims still follow that religion after what the turks did to our people for hundreds of years. Bosnian muslims all have christian ancestry but it has been lost to them due to the turkish subjugation of bosnia. So rather than it being a case you converting to christianity, you are just regaining your lost heritage:thumbsup:

Zdravo i tebi

My parents were not very happy when they heard that I was going to be baptised in the Orthodox Church. However, they calmed down when they found out that I had been baptised by an Arabic priest LOL

I am glad to be called by the Lord back to my roots. Praised be His name forever.