Can a Catholic be Democrat?

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Do you think a Catholic can be a Republican, yes the Pro Life issue is important but doesn’t it seem like the GOP conflicts with the Church (like Immigration (which is hits close to home and is personal), the Environment (most recent Social Encyclical), the Poor and Disadvantaged) on like ten issues than just big one and it seems like there are voices (a few or many) who seem to say otherwise? Granted, it’s probably saner to think that both sides are NOT holy (but hopefully have good peeps in both).
 
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  • Environment (Laudato Si)
  • Immigration (which is personal for the Church, if not imperative considering demographics)
  • Poverty (or caring for the disadvantaged in general both domestically and abroad)
Don’t get me wrong, I register GOP but it seems like the party has its issues (like seemingly they look “against” the Church on ten to one issues, although I understand that’s more nuance than that like prudential judgement) and there are voices here in the forums which push back on them, probably for understandable reasons (treatment of migrants at the border like poor conditions and mistreatment).
 
JoeShlabotnik said:
Health care and abortion are two different issues.
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That is true. That is why it is such a deception when pro abortion democrats call it “women’s healthcare”. They started calling it women’s healthcare when they couldn’t get the support they wanted by saying abortion rights.
JoeShlabotnik said:
There are more health issues for women, and for men, than abortion.
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Again, exactly, but that is not what they are talking about when they say “women’s healthcare”. They are talking about abortion and contraception.
 
I’m not a Republican. I just vote Republican because the far Left scares me.

But, I wish people would stop perpetuating the myth that Republicans don’t care about the poor. They just have different ideas on what would help the poor best.
 
redbetta said:
But, I wish people would stop perpetuating the myth that Republicans don’t care about the poor. They just have different ideas on what would help the poor best.
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Okay, what about the whole “racism” or being a white party? Perhaps they could do more to reach out to minority communities but how would you respond to the idea that many more nowadays or historically have seen the GOP as the racist option or have a personal reason like struggling with health care? Or seem UnChristian (treatment of migrants at detention facilities). Out of line with the Gospel (supposingly, non practicing but what do I know).

Also, what the states don’t step up or charities and non profits lack the capacity to address it?
 
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I think some people combine the two, but there are many who do not.
But this is neither here or there.
The title to this thread is, can a Catholic be a Democrat.
I believe people Catholics can be members of either part, or like most of us, they can be independent.
I support many Democratic Party candidates because I like their stand on medicare, social security, veterans issues, immigration reform, tax cuts for middle class people like myself, the need for regulations when it comes to media giants like Facebook and Google, term limitations for those running for office (I dislike lifetime politicians), wage increases for teachers, a higher minimum wage, and several other issues.
I support many Republican Party candidates when it comes to issues like eminent domain, the death penalty in some cases, and cutting taxes and user fees for middle class, working class stiffs like myself.
 
JoeShlabotnik said:
I think some people combine the two, but there are many who do not
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True. Usually you can tell the difference when hearing “healthcare” vs “women’s healthcare”. One is medical necessities for all people from the womb to the tomb, such as you will find at Catholic hospitals. The other is abortion and contraception.
JoeShlabotnik said:
I believe people Catholics can be members of either part,
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I come from a long line of Catholic democrats most of who are deceased now but those who passed away over the last 20 - 30 years moved away from the Democratic party because of what it has now come to stand for. Not just abortion but other such immorality also.

I am not saying the Republican party is great or a whole lot better. If I can and feel my vote will make a difference I vote third party.
 
What is racist about the Republican Party? Last time I check, there are Republicans of every race.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Exit polls from 2016 demonstrate that a significant majority of white Catholics voted for Trump…
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You could leave out the “Catholics” qualifier and your statement would still be true. In fact if you restrict the statistic to white Catholics and not just whites, that actually drags down Trump’s lead a little. White evangelicals, on the other hand, broke big time for Trump.
 
redbetta said:
But, I wish people would stop perpetuating the myth that Republicans don’t care about the poor. They just have different ideas on what would help the poor best.
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The last thing any administration did of any significance for the truly poor was the Earned Income Credit, and that was Reagan’s. The Dems pretend to help the poor and middle class, but they’re now probably even more in the pocket of the big corporations than the Repubs are.
 
JoeShlabotnik said:
There are many women’s health clinics that have been shut down because they offered abortion. What should have happened was that they clinics stayed open without abortions being offered.
There are more health issues for women, and for men, than abortion.
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Here is a map of Federally Qualified Health Clinics in the US that serve poor women. By law, these FQHCs have to provide services to people regardless of their ability to pay. They are in many rural areas where PP doesn’t have a presence. PP facilities shutting down has very little impact on women not being able to get health services contrary to what they claim. Ninety-four percent of the services given by PP are abortions. They do very little in the way of health care for women.

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Your claim about the Democratic Party is totally bogus. Misinformation to the max.
If not for the Democrats and the late John McCain, there would be no affordable health care at this time.
The previous leader of the House, a Republican, tried to dismantle Medicare, but was unable to do so.
 
JoeShlabotnik said:
Your claim about the Democratic Party is totally bogus. Misinformation to the max.
If not for the Democrats and the late John McCain, there would be no affordable health care at this time.
The previous leader of the House, a Republican, tried to dismantle Medicare, but was unable to do so.
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Not so. I can see that you are either not having to buy your insurance on the exchanges or that you are one of the 7 million or so who are heavily subsidized.

Obamacare was fundamentally a tax on one part of the middle class to benefit another segment of the middle class. It was an income redistribution which also made insurance unaffordable for a lot of people who did not qualify for subsidies. It wasn’t a program for poor people.

It did increase the number on Medicaid, some of whom had insurance with their employment and some of whom did not.

No Republican leader tried to dismantle Medicare.
 
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Many people now have health insurance. Many of those people used to go to emergency rooms. EM’s cannot deny services. Who do you think pays for those EMs? Our taxes.
 
Elizabeth3 said:
Ninety-four percent of the services given by PP are abortions.
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“But that misleading figure only counts certain direct services provided by Planned Parenthood to its pregnant clients: abortions, prenatal services and adoption referrals. It also discounts the millions of health services provided to women who are not pregnant, including those seeking to avoid unwanted pregnancies.”

In other words they got to 94% by ignoring most services, and then people such as yourself use that number to conclude they don’t provide other services. That’s what’s insidious about misuse of statistics.
 
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