Can a Catholic be Democrat?

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The USCCB in FCforFC speaks of this in clear language.

Honestly, it does damage to the pro life cause when people behave as if Speaker Pelosi is doing D&Cs in a kiosk outside of her office.
 
An awful myth. Repubs can’t outlaw abortion without having a prolife majority on the Supreme Court and a case in which the rule in Roe and Casey are at issue.
Did the GOP change its stance on abortion in the last few days? Do they not still support abortion in many cases, including “health of the mother?” As I recall, the President says he want to return the issue to the state, not ban it from a federal level. Did that change? That would leave abortion legal for most Americans.

As for the Supreme Court, the Court has had a majority of Republican appointees for years. No sign that Roe v Wade is getting overturned.
 
Did the GOP change its stance on abortion in the last few days? Do they not still support abortion in many cases, including “health of the mother?” As I recall, the President says he want to return the issue to the state, not ban it from a federal level. Did that change? That would leave abortion legal for most Americans.

As for the Supreme Court, the Court has had a majority of Republican appointees for years. No sign that Roe v Wade is getting overturned.
As you know, Kennedy was pro-abortion, which blocked any progress. Not all Repubs can be trusted when it comes to abortion. Nor can any Dems.
 
As you know, Kennedy was pro-abortion, which blocked any progress. Not all Repubs can be trusted when it comes to abortion. Nor can any Dems.
The Supreme Court has been made up of a majority of Republican nominees for what, 20 years? 30? When will this GOP plan to overturn Roe v Wade come to fruition?
 
Previously answered. But in further answer, it depends on whether Gorsuch and Roberts are truly prolife. We know for sure that Alito, Kavanaugh, Thomas are. Roberts is thought to be, as is Gorsuch. There is a lot of precedent to overcome, and it will depend on a case coming before the Court that is exactly on point. The Dem abortion forces, of course, will try to avoid any such case coming before the court. Long fight, but it’s not over yet.
 
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Previously answered. But in further answer, it depends on whether Gorsuch and Roberts are truly prolife. We know for sure that Alito, Kavanaugh, Thomas are. Roberts is thought to be, as is Gorsuch. There is a lot of precedent to overcome, and it will depend on a case coming before the Court that is exactly on point. The Dem abortion forces, of course, will try to avoid any such case coming before the court. Long fight, but it’s not over yet.
Time will tell, I suppose. The last 30 years may give some indication, though. I am not so sure you are correct on Alito, BTW. He is certainly personally pro-life, but in the past he has declined to join Thomas’ dissents calling for overturning Roe v Wade. He may come around if the votes are there, but is far from sure. We simply don’t know yet as to Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.
 
Evil is evil. There is no tier. That’s like the same as people asking if something is a mortal or venial sin. It’s still a sin no matter what so we shouldn’t do it.

In the same way, evil is still evil. The devil often does small amounts of good to trick us into supporting what is ultimately evil.
if evil is evil, we can’t vote for anyone. even the ASP seems to allow for exceptions to abortion.
 
Anybody “can”…

But nobody should. It’s literally anti-human. Unborn animals have more legal protection than unborn humans.

Self-control is free, too. 😊👍
 
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if evil is evil, we can’t vote for anyone. even the ASP seems to allow for exceptions to abortion.
https://solidarity-party.org/about-us/platform/#Life
“Federal and state governments must enact constitutional and legal measures establishing the right to life from conception until natural death. These measures specifically include a constitutional amendment clarifying that there is no right to abortion, as well as laws that prohibit or restrict abortion. Because human life begins at conception, the intentional destruction of human embryos in any context must end.
I’m not sure where you got the impression that they seem to allow exceptions, but their platform doesn’t seem to allow them at all.
 
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but their platform doesn’t seem to allow them at all.
your bold line explains it.

if they just said prohibit, you would be correct.

but they say prohibit or restrict abortion

prohibit would ban abortion

restrict would allow restrictions.
 
if they just said prohibit, you would be correct.

but they say prohibit or restrict abortion

prohibit would ban abortion

restrict would allow restrictions.
the intentional destruction of human embryos in any context must end.
It sounds like they’ll support any and all measures that will decrease abortion, but they want it to be banned entirely. “The intentional destruction of human embryos in any context must end” leaves no room for keeping restrictions, but rather moving towards a total ban.
 
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The Democratic Party is now full of elitists who really don’t give a hoot about the working person or the man or woman in the street. Just look at San Francisco, where Nancy Pelosi is from. She lives in a wealthy, gated and protected community while the rest of the city is a sloppy hot mess. And she couldn’t care less.

It’s that way all over California, now, which has an exclusively Democratic legislature and a Democrat for a so-called “governor”.

Didn’t used to be that way. California was once a conservative state. Ronald Reagan had been its governor, and one of the best ones the state has had.

The Democrats don’t have our best interests at heart, nor what’s good for the country as a whole.
 
It sounds like they’ll support any and all measures that will decrease abortion, but they want it to be banned entirely. “The intentional destruction of human embryos in any context must end” leaves no room for keeping restrictions, but rather moving towards a total ban.
the platform does leave the door open, do you have a link where they state that they won’t allow restrictions?
 
the platform does leave the door open, do you have a link where they state that they won’t allow restrictions?
I quoted you the platform. The line that says “The intentional destruction of human embryos in any context must end” is from their platform. If you read that with the rest of what it’s said, it’s obvious that they intend to outlaw abortion entirely and will approve any measures whether it’s a restriction or outright ban to work towards getting rid of it entirely. You’re looking at that one word and ignoring the rest of the paragraph.
 
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I quoted you the platform. The line that says “The intentional destruction of human embryos in any context must end” is from their platform. If you read that with the rest of what it’s said, it’s obvious that they intend to outlaw abortion entirely and will approve any measures whether it’s a restriction or outright ban to work towards getting rid of it entirely. You’re looking at that one word and ignoring the rest of the paragraph.
just saying destruction must end doesn’t eliminate the restriction. if they were 100% they would not have used the word restrict and just say prohibit.

does any other statements exist?
 
just saying destruction must end doesn’t eliminate the restriction. if they were 100% they would not have used the word restrict and just say prohibit.
What part of “The intentional destruction of human embryos in any context must end” leaves room for “We’re okay with just restrictions”?
does any other statements exist?
What do you mean? What could be more official than their platform?
 
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What part of “The intentional destruction of human embryos in any context must end” leaves room for “We’re okay with just restrictions”?
quite frankly, you can’t ignore the word restrict. it is incompatible with “in any context”. the or is the issue. why did they include restrict if it isn’t an option?

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constitutional amendment clarifying that there is no right to abortion, as well as laws that prohibit or restrict abortion.
 
quite frankly, you can’t ignore the word restrict. it is incompatible with “in any context”. the or is the issue. why did they include restrict if it isn’t an option?
You can’t ignore the word restrict, but you also can’t ignore the rest of the paragraph it’s in. They’re saying restrict because they will support any and all measures against abortion, since a restriction is one step closer towards completely banning it. They want a total ban against abortion, and will support any measures taken against it, whether partial or total. This means if a bill was put up to vote to ban the abortion of fetuses older than, say, two weeks, they’d vote in favor of it. And they’d still advocate for it to be completely banned. Would you rather they vote against the bill?
 
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