Can a "normal Joe" interpret Bible passages/scripture?

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mlchance:
Are you saying I’m not really a Christian?

– Mark L. Chance.
No Im not, I believe you are, but you have true teachings that have been seasoned with religious and philospical ways. But that is not your fault, nor the Popes and so on. I lived 30 years religiously(Catholic), I was born into it, until the I told God I have a problem with my spirital life. To make a long story short, he told me to unlearn all of mans way to reach him, lose my oppressive religious spirits and listen to the one and true teacher, Jesus. We cannot find any other way to Jesus than what he taught us in the Gospels.

Many will seek the path to rightousness, few will find it. I hope you do to. I will pray for you.
 
St. Ambrose of Milan The Patriarchs 9,38 190 A.D.

His poverty enriches, the fringe of His garment heals, His hunger satisfies, His death gives life, His burial gives resurrection. Therefore, He is a rich treasure, for His bread is rich. And ‘rich’ is apt for one who has eaten this bread will be unable to feel hunger. He gave it to the Apostles to distribute to a believing people, and today He gives it to us, for He, as a priest, daily consecrates it with His own words. Therefore, this bread has become the food of the saints.

St. Clement of Alexandria The Instructor 2,2,19,4 202 A.D.

And the blood of the Lord is twofold. For there is the blood of His flesh, by which we are redeemed from corruption; and the spiritual, that by which we are anointed. And to drink the blood of Jesus, is to become partaker of the Lord’s immortality; the Spirit being the energetic principle of the Word, as blood is of flesh. Accordingly, as wine is blended with water, so is the Spirit with man. And the one, the mixture of wine and water, nourishes to faith; while the other, the Spirit, conducts to immortality. And the mixture of both–of the water and of the Word–is called Eucharist, renowned and glorious grace; and they who by faith partake of it are sanctified both in body and soul. For the divine mixture, man, the Father’s will has mystically compounded by the Spirit and the Word. For, in truth, the spirit is joined to the soul, which is inspired by it; and the flesh, by reason of which the Word became flesh, to the Word.

St. Clement of Alexandria The Instructor 1,6,41,3 202 A.D.

The Word is all to the child, both father and mother and tutor and nurse. “Eat ye my flesh,” He says, “and drink my blood.” Such is the suitable food which the Lord ministers, and He offers His flesh and pours forth His blood, and nothing is wanting for the children’s growth. O amazing mystery

Tertullian Against Marcion 4,40,3 212 A.D.

Then, having taken the bread and given it to His disciples, He made it His own body, by saying, “This is my body,” that is, the figure of my body. A figure, however, there could not have been, unless there were first a veritable body. An empty thing, or phantom, is incapable of a figure. If, however, (as Marcion might say,) He pretended the bread was His body, because He lacked the truth of bodily substance, it follows that He must have given bread for us. It would contribute very well to the support of Marcion’s theory of a phantom body, that bread should have been crucified! But why call His body bread, and not rather (some other edible thing, say) a melon, which Marcion must have had in lieu of a heart! He did not understand how ancient was this figure of the body of Christ, who said Himself by Jeremiah: “I was like a lamb or an ox that is brought to the slaughter, and I knew not that they devised a device against me, saying, Let us cast the tree upon His bread,” which means, of course, the cross upon His body.

As you can see above all of Christianity has taught this from the beginning, yet somehow under this new interpretation this is no longer the case.

If the apostles were incapable of transmitting this message, in particular John to Ignatius, to the first generations disciples then the gospel of John itself is suspect as it is at odds with their teachings to their disciples. So either they are wrong, or those who go scripture alone are incorrect.

Peace and God Bless
Nicene
 
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1Christ1Church:
No Im not, I believe you are…
Well, that’s mighty charitable of you. Now answer my other question: Why did Jesus teach you something that contradicts what he taught me? Please keep in mind that Jesus, not any popes or philosophers, taught me what I know, just like you claim he did for you. So why the difference?

– Mark L. Chance.
 
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mlchance:
Well, that’s mighty charitable of you. Now answer my other question: Why did Jesus teach you something that contradicts what he taught me? Please keep in mind that Jesus, not any popes or philosophers, taught me what I know, just like you claim he did for you. So why the difference?

– Mark L. Chance.
Because you accept second hand news of God. I go directly to the source of my creation.
 
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1Christ1Church:
Because you accept second hand news of God. I go directly to the source of my creation.
No, I don’t accept second hand news of God (well, at least, I’m pretty sure I don’t, but since I’m not 100% clear on what you mean by such an unusual category…). I’m telling: Jesus taught me what I believe. You make the same claim. So, why did Jesus teach you something different than he taught me?

– Mark L. Chance.
 
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1Christ1Church:
Because you accept second hand news of God. I go directly to the source of my creation.
Interestingly enough what I posted above didn’t come from the church either. It wasn’t taught to me. I went directly to the source.

Peace and God Bless
Nicene
 
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1Christ1Church:
Because you accept second hand news of God. I go directly to the source of my creation.
I forgot to say, “…to the source of my creation, my creator, God in the name of Jesus Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit.”

Good night, I gots to get dinner ready for my family. God be with you all.
 
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1Christ1Church:
I forgot to say, “…to the source of my creation, my creator, God in the name of Jesus Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit.”
You also forgot to answer my question. Again.

One more time, just for the record: Jesus taught me what I believe. You make the same claim. So, why did Jesus teach you something different than he taught me?

– Mark L. Chance.
 
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mlchance:
You also forgot to answer my question. Again.

One more time, just for the record: Jesus taught me what I believe. You make the same claim. So, why did Jesus teach you something different than he taught me?

– Mark L. Chance.
I know who taught you because YOU showed who by quoteing a bunch of people who recieved second hand news of Jesus. Thats why.
 
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1Christ1Church:
I know who taught you because YOU showed who by quoteing a bunch of people who recieved second hand news of Jesus. Thats why.
No, I didn’t. The only quotes from anyone I’ve typed into this thread are from you, me, and Christ Jesus speaking in John’s Gospel.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
And did you misunderstand me? I believe it is his body and blood, but its not to be put into a box and placed on a table to adore it, like we actually command him to be there.
 
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1Christ1Church:
And did you misunderstand me? I believe it is his body and blood, but its not to be put into a box and placed on a table to adore it, like we actually command him to be there.
I didn’t misunderstand your interpretation. It was quite understandable, but there’s still this troubling question: Why did Jesus teach me something different than he taught you?

– Mark L. Chance.
 
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mlchance:
No, I didn’t. The only quotes from anyone I’ve typed into this thread are from you, me, and Christ Jesus speaking in John’s Gospel.

– Mark L. Chance.
Whoops, my bad. Sorry.

Ok, what do you believe in?! Say it.
 
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1Christ1Church:
Whoops, my bad. Sorry.

Ok, what do you believe in?! Say it.
Perhaps I’ll get around to that after you finally answer my question: Why did Jesus teach you something than he taught me?

– Mark L. Chance.
 
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mlchance:
Perhaps I’ll get around to that after you finally answer my question: Why did Jesus teach you something than he taught me?

– Mark L. Chance.
How can I answer if you have not told me what you have learned?

All I get from you is “different”.

Why hold back?!

Hurry, i got to go.
 
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1Christ1Church:
Why hold back?!
Precisely my point. Either you have explanation, or you don’t. If you don’t, just admit it. What I believe regarding the section of John’s Gospel I quoted is not terribly relevant to your answer. Suffice it to say that Jesus taught me you are wrong, and he (according to you) taught you that I’m wrong. So, again, why?

– Mark L. Chance.
 
1Christ1Church said:
WOW, thanks Rome!!! Philip recieved the good news of Jesus and gave back to God what God has given him to the Ethiopian! Then the Ethiopian believed the word of God and realized he wanted to be baptized for repentance of his sins. WOW, I wonder if Rome ever sent the Ethiopian his baptism certificate!

Come on, you hear the living word of God from another, you believe, get baptized. Read and learn from the king of kings himself in the Gospels. Go teach and be fishers of men and belong to the one true church of heaven.

*I *don’t know who is running in circles more (and going nowhere)… you or the OP who says his religion is “other”.
 
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mlchance:
Precisely my point. Either you have explanation, or you don’t. If you don’t, just admit it. What I believe regarding the section of John’s Gospel I quoted is not terribly relevant to your answer. Suffice it to say that Jesus taught me you are wrong, and he (according to you) taught you that I’m wrong. So, again, why?

– Mark L. Chance.
Mr. or Ms or Mrs., throw me a bone here, or dont. You obviously wont, so good night.
 
I must admit “apologetics” are extremely crafty and clever.
 
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1Christ1Church:
Mr. or Ms or Mrs., throw me a bone here, or dont. You obviously wont, so good night.
Good night to you too. Later on, if you can come up with an answer, perhaps you can finally explain why Jesus taught us different things. You could also, perhaps, explain why Jesus teaches other people other different things.

If not, I’ll guess I’ll just have to chalk you up as yet another poster making extremely questionable claims about receiving accurate knowledge from Jesus.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
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