Can a Roman Catholic Attend a Byzantine Catholic Liturgy?

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That’s a lot to unpack. It’s late on my end, so I will try to respond tomorrow.

I just want to reiterate, as a Latin, I have tried to be civil in this thread. Don’t punish me for the transgressions of others.

Bonum nox, fratres.
 
To what I know as long as that church is in communion in rome the answer is yes
 
Certainly an interesting point, something to think about. I personally see nothing disrespectful about Communion Hosts, but I see where you are coming from.
marhaba said:
Yes you are right He is probably in there as He loves you. But love is a two way street.
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I am sure that He is there!
 
marhaba said:
Yet for conveniance people want to say ‘This is fine S-n of G-d - just pop into this factory mass produced (by nuns) wafer’
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To clarify, it would be a matter of the bread/host changing rather than Christ “entering” it; the latter sounds closer to Lutheran views.
 
Now to be fair here I think some of the confusion is warranted, although as has been implied much of the “contention” likely has primarily to do with expression rather than belief, I think so anyway.

Personally I have a great deal of respect for the Byzantine liturgical traditions; St. John Chrysostom’s Divine Liturgy, from my very limited experience at a Ukrainian Catholic church, is exceptionally beautiful.
 
marhaba said:
You are twisting my words around babochka & deliberately complicating matters w/ a strawman argument. (Saying I said things I did not say & then arguing w/ that).
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Wow… that’s pretty harsh. Why not come at this with the more charitable assumption that I misunderstood what you wrote? I know that you’re pretty frustrated with this thread, but please remember that we essentially agree.
 
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marhaba said:
You wrote that I was being/or what I wrote was “misleading”.

I realise you misunderstood me.

Getting some sleep now. All is love. Two Paschal kisses xx
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Sleep? Who needs sleep when there is internet arguing to be done?

(I say this at 1:30 am, after tossing and turning in bed for 2 hours. The kids will be up at 6…)🤣
 
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I already wrote above in the thread about when & where Orthodox will give the Eucharist.
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Some Orthodox priests believe that Catholics are heretics and must not be given Holy Communion, even in an emergency. Here is an example of a Roman Catholic priest converting to the Orthodox Church. You notice that he renounces certain Catholic beliefs as he is being converted.

 
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Yes, more or less. You’ll find all types in the Byzantine churches…some are basically Orthodox and others have a very Latin mindset. I think it also depends on which Church it is. Melkites are very un-Latinized and the most Orthodox minded of any of the Byzantine rite Churches. The Ukrainians are a mixed bunch.
 
Yes, the mystery is one of the things I love about Byzantine theology.
 
lol! yes! I woke up this morning and this thread had exploded! I’m responding a bit before Liturgy but will be back this afternoon 🙂
 
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To clarify, it would be a matter of the bread/host changing rather than Christ “entering” it; the latter sounds closer to Lutheran views.
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Not to disrupt a truly fascinating thread, but Lutherans in no way believe in the host “being entered” with Christ’s Body and Blood. We simply acknowledge that the Bread and Wine are His Body and Blood because He said they are. We say no more and no less. It is a mystery how this happens, as the other poster has noted.

Roman Catholics often mistake us for “Consubstantiationists,” but this is a false accusation. The misunderstanding is due, in part, to the Roman Catholic understanding of the Sacrament being a bit more “explained” and seemingly Aristotelian (at least, on the surface). It’s also not helped by the fact that many authoritative Roman Catholic sources surprisingly define ‘Consubstantiation’ in the negative; in other words, anything that proclaims the Real Presence and is not Transubstantiation is deemed to be Consubstantiation. Just silly.

Lutherans, on the other hand, simply acknowledge that Christ is really, truly, physically present in every possible way (in, with, under, around, over, behind, whatever-- it’s real, not merely spiritual, like in Calvinism) and do not attempt to explain how this happens like Transubstatiationists or Consubstantiationists.

Ok, now please continue with your thread. 🙂
 
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So it is a bit like the Lutheran - as you said. For example we don’t have ‘adoration’. We think that is madness & obscene. We were told to eat & drink - not stare at the Holy Eucharist. On this practise we agree w/ the Reformationists as you noted. They molded themselves after the Orthodox to some extent. That is why.
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And this is precisely the reason (most) Lutherans do not typically reserve the Sacrament but typically consume any remnants (by the Pastor and deacons/elders), or reverently return the Body and Blood to the earth in keeping with ancient practices. It used to be standard Lutheran practice to declare intent to commune at either private confession or Vespers on the Saturday night before Sunday’s Gottesdienst (Divine Service) so no more than necessary was consecrated. Nowadays, churches just use attendance cards the morning of. In many ways, this suggests an even higher respect for Holy Communion than reservation and adoration.

Out of curiosity, do these practices line up with your own?
 
Perhaps you should try one of the threads on sexuality, Islam or the TLM if you find this one too dull for your tastes? 😃
 
Just don’t take it seriously or personally, or let it get you down. The ignorance of some posters can be downright depressing.

Most of all, HAVE FUN!!!
 
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Goodnight Andrew & babochka.

I just got a notice that I almost used up my ‘likes’. So if I’m on here tomorrow & there are no little hearts for anyone - it’s because I hate you now. No - it will be because of this robotic site rationing my affection.
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How do you run out of likes? How many likes does one get? I had no idea. I’m just going to be very free with my likes for a while and see what happens.
 
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