Can Catholic Priests "Help Themselves"?

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Sure I am addicted to porn, as I said. And yes, it’s feeling pretty impossible to “kick” it, even in the times when I’ve thought I should or might do so. Like I said, it is my “one vice” .

However, overall, my experiences , the msgs I have been reading on these boards, other books I’ve read on my own time by devout Catholic “inspirational” writers, the speeches I’ve seen by Father Crapari, etc, etc , have all led me to the conclusion that you people here, not every single one of you of course, but a decent lot of you, are rather like the Christian , or Catholic rather, in this case, “version” of the Muslim world’s Wahabbists / Salafists. You have that same holier than thou attitude, the same tendency toward theological totalitarianism. You believe your own particular religious creed and your Church is the only way to “salvation” ( n’est ce-pas?? Is that not the Church’s “official” stance??). You take everything that comes from your Vatican as literal , 100% “infallible” and beyond questioning.

Myself, I am a born questioner. That’s probably why I’ve never been a good, if I’ve ever even been a “true”, Catholic. I don’t just “accept” these things, these edicts from Rome that I can’t do this, or I ought to do that, or I have to do this, just because some elderly man on a throne over there in that independent city-state “decrees” it. I think Jesus himself, if we are to believe anything we’ve read about him at least, would probably find the pomp and circumstance, the gaudiness and the proud display, the theological rigidity and totalitarianism of the Roman Catholic Church, probably most distasteful, to say the least. And what would he think about things like the Vatican bank scandal, with that Marcinkus character who just passed, for example?? Or the Vatican’s notorious “connections” to Italian organized crime?? Or the cardinals, bishops, et al, who flat-out stonewall secular authorities when it comes time for legitimate secular-led investigations, who play “three-card monte” with abusive sexually deranged priests, who they know *damn well * have been or even currently are, victimizing children in dioceses and parishes not only in major cities in America but pretty much it seems wherever the Church becomes firmly established and sets up a local following and quasi-political power base. My own hometown of Chicago is one example. Boston is another fine example. The despicable Father Geoghan, to name just one notorious priest from that city. See the film , “Our Fathers”, available at your local video store on DVD, if you can bear to watch it.

To “Sir Knight” : If I’m potentially going to “hell” for the “mortal sin” of masturbating to and/ or enjoying legitimate adult pornography then surely I’ll have gaggles * of Roman Catholics and RC priests, cardinals, monsignors, bishops, even former popes I’m sure, down there with me to officiate at our boring weekly Masses every Sunday. I’m sure I’ll meet alot of these “Opus Dei”-type Catholics and alot of the hierarchy they’re so subservient to, all adorned in their gold and jewels of course. The “born-again” Catholic-hating Evangelicals and other Protestants, with their “King James” versions in tow, spewing hatred through hands clenched in prayer. The Muslim “extremists” and terrorists, toting rifles that only shoot blanks down there. The Jewish extremists and militant Zionist “settlers” hollering about the “coming of the Moshiach” and their own “Chosenness”. Talk about “hell”. We’re already in it * !! Look around you. Read a paper. Look at what’s going on in the world, in this * world, in the Middle East , the land where not only Jesus but the whole current Western idea of God was born * ! I have come to the conclusion, long ago actually, that no deceased Jewish preacher is ever coming back from the dead “in glory to judge” any of us. We have to make our own way in this world, of that I’m convinced, and we only live but once, and ever so briefly at that.
 
To Ana: I’m sorry you had such ugly experiences, and that it was due to pornography. I’m glad you seem to have found some measure of “peace” with what happened in your past. I myself have no children, no wife, and I would take into very careful consideration my own capability of even being or even wanting to be a good husband to someone (much less a good full-time father to someone) before I ever do so. (Right now I frankly want to be neither, but a bachelor). Furthermore, before I’d ever harm my own children or anyone else’s I’d sooner sit in the garage for awhile with some tranquilizers and the car running…so that would never be something that I would allow to happen. But I appreciate your point(s) and your (name removed by moderator)ut. Thank you.
 
Dear TheBigQ,

I am sorry if the posters sound sanctimonious, but maybe there concern for the discussion and the QA serve and volley style of the posts may take away at their sincerity. Sometimes knowledge is not enough (even Jesus said children would understand his message even better than the learned) but prayer, confession and adoration. When I was on WYD a very straight talking priests taught us about the seriousness of contraception and masturbation. This perturbed a few of the boys in my group so they went up to ask a more gentle priest, and he told us of a theologian in the 1940’s who was going to be investigated for his writtings. He then reflected, prayed, read and wrote again, this time about a more rational change the church needed, not a radical one. He then compared him to Hans Kung, who had all the potential for Bishop material, but chose to shut himself off from the Magisterium. I say this not to make you change instantly all feel guilty, but just to think.

God Bless
Matthew Baldwin
 
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TheBigQ:
To “Sir Knight” : If I’m potentially going to “hell” for the “mortal sin” of masturbating to and/ or enjoying legitimate adult pornography then surely I’ll have *gaggles * of Roman Catholics and RC priests, cardinals, monsignors, bishops, even former popes I’m sure, down there with me to …
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Whoever else will be down there with you will be of NO consolation to YOU.
 
Please tell me that the starter had absolutely no validity in his post about not masterbating being damaging. It is an addiction for me and one of the reasons is because I am so afraid that stopping would mean doing something harmful. However, that being said, I recently have been able to cut the habit down to a minimum and eventually should be able to stop the habit completely. However it will probably be several years before I meet someone and get married since I need to finish school and everything first so it is a sacry thought that not masterbating would potentially be dangerous.
 
Sure I am addicted to porn, as I said. And yes, it’s feeling pretty impossible to “kick” it, even in the times when I’ve thought I should or might do so. Like I said, it is my “one vice” .
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Lots of people struggle with masturbation and pornography, there are plenty of other common sins that the majority of people struggle with … lying, cheating, cursing, adultery and premarital sex, drink and drugs, the list goes on … just because many or even the majority of people do something doesn’t make it any less sinful.
However, overall, my experiences , the msgs I have been reading on these boards, other books I’ve read on my own time by devout Catholic “inspirational” writers, the speeches I’ve seen by Father Crapari, etc, etc , have all led me to the conclusion that you people here, not every single one of you of course, but a decent lot of you, are rather like the Christian , or Catholic rather, in this case, “version” of the Muslim world’s Wahabbists / Salafists. You have that same holier than thou attitude, the same tendency toward theological totalitarianism. You believe your own particular religious creed and your Church is the only way to “salvation” ( n’est ce-pas?? Is that not the Church’s “official” stance??). You take everything that comes from your Vatican as literal, 100% “infallible” and beyond questioning.
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I see very little of a holier-than-thou attitude. There’s a difference between saying that I’m certain of what’s right and I’m a wonderful person and saying that I’m certain of what the Church teaches and obedient to it. Sure its standards are fairly stringent - quite possibly it’s more than what I need to be saved, but this is my immortal soul I’m talking about. Why should I be satisfied with doing the bare minimum of what I may need to get into heaven?
I think Jesus himself, would probably find the pomp and circumstance, the gaudiness and the proud display, the theological rigidity and totalitarianism of the Roman Catholic Church, probably most distasteful, to say the least.
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Sure - Jesus found the gifts of the Magi distasteful, and the costly ointment that was poured onto his feet instead of being sold and its cost donated to the poor? Anything that is done with the right intent (to bring honour and glory to him) is fine by us and probably by him.

Would you rather the ‘pomp and circumstance, the gaudiness and proud display’ be used to honour God’s representatives on earth or royalty and movie and music stars? I know which I prefer.
And don’t confuse public with private display - our current Pope regularly goes back to his old (humbler) apartments in Rome because he HATES all the ‘pomp and circumstance’.
And what would he think about things like the Vatican bank scandal, with that Marcinkus character who just passed, for example?? Or the Vatican’s notorious “connections” to Italian organized crime?? Or the cardinals, bishops, et al, who flat-out stonewall secular authorities when it comes time for legitimate secular-led investigations, who play “three-card monte” with abusive sexually deranged priests, who they know *damn well * have been or even currently are, victimizing children in dioceses and parishes not only in major cities in America but pretty much it seems wherever the Church becomes firmly established and sets up a local following and quasi-political power base. My own hometown of Chicago is one example. Boston is another fine example. The despicable Father Geoghan, to name just one notorious priest from that city. See the film , “Our Fathers”, available at your local video store on DVD, if you can bear to watch it.
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Yes yes yes the Church has and has had sin and scandal at all levels and at many times in history. In the middle ages it was the crusades, in the Renaissance it was Popes who had mistresses and children, in WWII it was the Church’s attitude to Nazis.

Jesus treats these the same as he treats all sins - forgives if repentance is genuine, even seventy-seven times. Just like he forgave Peter for denying him, Paul for persecuting him, most of the other Apostles for abandoning him … he would have forgiven Judas himself if Judas had repented of what he did instead of despairing of forgiveness. The Church is far greater than its sinful members, always has been and always will be.
 
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Please tell me that the starter had absolutely no validity in his post about not masterbating being damaging. It is an addiction for me and one of the reasons is because I am so afraid that stopping would mean doing something harmful. However, that being said, I recently have been able to cut the habit down to a minimum and eventually should be able to stop the habit completely. However it will probably be several years before I meet someone and get married since I need to finish school and everything first so it is a sacry thought that not masterbating would potentially be dangerous.
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I am not here to judge anyone but since you brought it up, let’s look at some facts as taught by our faith.

To be repentant of a sin, one must make an honest effort not to engage in that activity. Which, by what I am reading, you have not fully committed to doing and therefore your repenatnace can not be considered full/honest.

If one were to die with an unrepentant mortal sin on their soul, they are forever lost to the fires of hell. You say that “it is a sacry thought that not masterbating would potentially be dangerous”. Ask yourself what is more ‘scary’? That? Or, forever being lost to the fires of hell?

May I suggest you get a copy of the lives of the saints which contains descriptions of hell and purgatory. Read those passages carefully. Think about what eternity means and ask yourself the above question again as to what is more scarier?

If you are masterbating because you’ve developed a sinful habit and are having a hard time stopping and HONESTLY want to stop, then each trip to confession wipes you clean. If not, then each trip to confession does nothing and your mortal sins remain.
 
BigQ,
If you came here just to bait us and then taunt, how do you think it makes you look when you accuse us of sanctimony?

Maybe someday when you find that perfect woman, and she turns out to be turned off by your “one little vice”, then you can come back here (or somewhere else) and seek help. But please don’t come to this site bragging about something that is so obviously a sin, and then chastise us for pointing out its sinfullness. Has anyone on this site told you that they’re going to heaven and you’re not? You haven’t followed any of our posts on other threads to see that we all have sins that make us unworthy of His Love.

Good Luck in your endeavors,

Notworthy
 
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TheBigQ:
When I say “help themselves” , I mean to imply … relieve themselves of a certain specific “need” which usually occurs fairly regularly in normal human males … *without * , in their case at least, using any sort of “visual aids” and , of course, again in their case, obviously without being in contact with anyone else…
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Hmmm. You’re not being too specific here, so I’m going to have to guess what you mean. Let’s see… Can priests help themselves… specific need… occurs regularly in normal males… needs relief… without contact with anyone else… no visual aids. Got it.

The answer is yes, a priest who is eating supper alone in the rectory can get up, walk over to the stove, and help himself to another plateful. Visual aids should be unnecessary since the priest is presumed to know where the stove is without a map.
 
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TheBigQ:
To Ana: I’m sorry you had such ugly experiences, and that it was due to pornography
I’m glad you seem to have found some measure of “peace” with what happened in your past.
I myself have no children, no wife, and I would take into very careful consideration my own capability of even being or even wanting to be a good husband to someone (much less a good full-time father to someone) before I ever do so (Right now I frankly want to be neither, but a bachelor). Furthermore, before I’d ever harm my own children or anyone else’s I’d sooner sit in the garage for awhile with some tranquilizers and the car running…so that would never be something that I would allow to happen. But I appreciate your point(s) and your (name removed by moderator)ut. Thank you.
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Thank you. I have found “some” measure of peace and have experienced much healing, but I still deal with the consequences of this harmless vice.

If marriage comes up, and you find yourself taking into consideration your CAPABILITY of being a good husband and father, please know that it will be seriously hindered by your addiction.

I hope your desire to remain a bachelor, isn’t due to the fact that you would prefer an empty relationship with images of people that don’t love you back, as opposed to the precious gift of a flesh and blood family with real people that you can love and be loved by in return.

God bless you!
 
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Myself, I am a born questioner. That’s probably why I’ve never been a good, if I’ve ever even been a “true”, Catholic. I don’t just “accept” these things, these edicts from Rome that I can’t do this, or I ought to do that, or I have to do this, just because some elderly man on a throne over there in that independent city-state “decrees” it.
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Okay, you are a born questioner, that is good. However, the more the more important question to you is: Are you seeking the truth at all cost? This requires more gut level honesty, humility and courage than simply questioning with no seeking or adherence to truth. Otherwise you become just another windbag noisemaker.
Man tends by nature toward the truth. He is obliged to honor and bear witness to it: “It is in accordance with their dignity that all men, because they are persons . . . are both impelled by their nature and bound by a moral obligation to seek the truth, especially religious truth. They are also bound to adhere to the truth once they come to know it and direct their whole lives in accordance with the demands of truth.” (Catechism of the Catholic Church 2467)
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I think Jesus himself, if we are to believe anything we’ve read about him at least, would probably find the pomp and circumstance, the gaudiness and the proud display, the theological rigidity and totalitarianism of the Roman Catholic Church, probably most distasteful, to say the least. And what would he think about things like the Vatican bank scandal, with that Marcinkus character who just passed, for example?? Or the Vatican’s notorious “connections” to Italian organized crime?? Or the cardinals, bishops, et al, who flat-out stonewall secular authorities when it comes time for legitimate secular-led investigations, who play “three-card monte” with abusive sexually deranged priests, who they know *damn well * have been or even currently are, victimizing children in dioceses and parishes not only in major cities in America but pretty much it seems wherever the Church becomes firmly established and sets up a local following and quasi-political power base. My own hometown of Chicago is one example. Boston is another fine example. The despicable Father Geoghan, to name just one notorious priest from that city. See the film , “Our Fathers”, available at your local video store on DVD, if you can bear to watch it.
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You are allowing yourself to get sidetracked and distracted in your questioning. What is your agenda: To seek and to discover the truth, or to slam dunk in anger? These are questions that you may want to ponder and confront yourself with.
 
That was quite a rant…

It seems to me at least, that you want us to tell you that masturbating to pornography is O.K. and not a sin. And if we don’t, we’re holier than thou Wahabiists.

I’m not buying it Big Q, my guess is you know darn well what you’re doing is wrong, and this is your last ditch attempt to justify it, and since we’re essentially telling you what you know is true, you’re angry…
 
Hi theBigQ,

Without going into details, just want to tell you i’ve been where you are, and i have found a better way to live. Masturbation feels like a physical need when you are addicted to it. Pornography feeds that addiction. Both of them are detrimental to real relationships. There are various ways to be free of this form of slavery (addiction), but the best one is following Jesus Christ in all His commandments. There are various organizations that help men regain our freedom in this. A couple of good websites are dads.org/strugglewithporn.asp and TrueKnights.org

Living a chaste life is something you learn as you go along. It is the best way to live in every way. You can’t get to where you want to go in your personal life through sexual fantasization. This becomes more and more obvious as we get older. Chastity gives us freedom and self-control to turn away from sin and TOWARD something that is better: Truth. Beauty. Reality. All summed up in Jesus Christ, who established the Church as a channel of His grace for our salvation with His own blood. The only way to eternal life. The only way to real happiness. He can give you everything you need and want. You want something better than what you have now, right? Taste and see the goodness of the Lord
 
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TheBigQ:
I find it hard to believe that the “m” word, the so called “Sin of Onan” , would or should be a “mortal sin”.
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I also struggle to understand this teaching. Nevertheless, this is what the Church teaches, and the Church has the authority to teach. However, it is important to note that it is a grave matter, but not necessarily a mortal sin. For this grave matter to be a mortal sin, it must also be committed with full understanding and full consent. I’ll leave it at that. However, whether we understand why this is a grave matter or not, it’s habit forming. It becomes something you are enslaved to, and a man cannot have two masters. He will love one and hate the other. You should seek to remove it from your life as best you can if for no other reason than to prevent self-indulgence from distracting you from God.

Some people can remove this from their life with moderate difficulty. For others, it is dramatically more difficult. For others yet, it will be as challanging to remove as it is for one strongly inclined to forego homosexual urges. Which is to say it is functionally impossible unless God intervenes directly. My suggestion is to do the best you can. In this fashion, it offers the same challenges and perils as any other additction.
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TheBigQ:
If God did not intend man to be the way we are , which is ( again, barring the very few men who are truly on a “higher spiritual plane” than the average man) in an almost constant state of at least potential sexual “excitedness”… then why did he make us this way??
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It is perilous in many ways to rely on the human capacity to understand God’s creation and his plan. You cannot accurately assess what you cannot understand. What hope do you have of understanding one who can say “Let there be light” and all the stars of the universe were born? As humans, we are almost helpless to explain the color red to a man blind from birth, and the only difference between us is one sense. Imagine the gulf that separates us in understanding from God. Or, as a movie aptly pointed out, try explaining yourself to a cockroach sometime …

Men are often inclined to a great many things which displease God, and we should do our best to avoid all of them. Addictions of all types fall into this category. This includes sexually related addictions. But as I say this, I know that it is of little comfort to one hopelessly addicted. Do the best you can, and ask forgiveness for your shortcomings. That is what I suggest. It is the only hope I have for myself. It is the only hope I have to offer others. Let your faith be your strength, and do the best you can.
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TheBigQ:
I myself am an admitted pornography addict. I love it. I don’t plan to quit. Women , and “images” of women, are my only real “vice”. I don’t drink, or smoke, or take any drugs. Will I quit my vice if / when I ever get married? Maybe, or maybe whomever I marry will be the type with whom we’ll be able to “incorporate” some level of “erotica” into our marriage.
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Every choice you make ripples through humanity. Our Lord did not make up the rules arbitrarily. They are given to us because, when followed, they benefit the men around us, and, when broken, they cause harm. When you become a consumer of pornography, you encourage those who sell and produce it, and the damage that these people inflict on vulnerable women and children is enormous. Even if your wife permits or encourages your indulgence, it will act as a slow poison in your relationship, eroding it from the edges as she eventually starts to struggle with her ability to compete with your magazines … believe me because I know. Your choices are never isolated. Every choice you make touches the pond in a small or a great way. Everyone feels the ripples. I would encourage you, as I encourage myself, to make the best choices we can.
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TheBigQ:
I don’t feel I need to go to confession or anything to confess what I do with porn, when, how often, etc etc.
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I have a couple of destructive obsessions along these same lines, and I struggle with what, if anything, I should say to the Priest. Since I know that in some matters I do not give full consent, and in others do not have full understanding, I am probably not guilty of mortal sin. Nonetheless, these matters strongly affect my relationship with God, and so I should probably confess them. The Priest, I feel certain, will not want details. I believe I will say something to this tune: “Father, I’m struggling with a lustful obsession on a daily basis, and I often fail.”
 
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TheBigQ:
When I say “help themselves” , I mean to imply … relieve themselves of a certain specific “need” which usually occurs fairly regularly in normal human males … without * , in their case at least, using any sort of “visual aids” and , of course, again in their case, obviously without being in contact with anyone else. That may sound like a bad question but I’m being quite sincere in asking it. I have always wondered about that. Considering the celibacy requirement (which I am not in “disagreement” with , in theory), how can they, considering that they are normal human males , get by?? It is actually believed to be “bad” for a man to not occasionally “help” himself, not only physically bad, but even mentally. You can literally go a bit daft, I have heard it said. Barring literal castration ( urologists can do this today, for a fee of course, and it is said to be a fairly simple and easy to recover from surgery), combined with certain medication(s) which also help lower or completely erase the release of the normal male hormone(s) from the glandular area(s) of the brain from whence it comes, there is no known way to make a human male truly * celibate, even from the so called “solitary vice” ; make him completely “free”, so to speak, of any and all natural “urges” in such directions.

Also, could it be that some of the priests who have so grievously erred in their paths, to put it gently, and unfortunately strayed into the realm of harming others ( the young most frequently), have suffered from a sort of self-imposed “ban” on even this (essentially harmless) “solitary vice” ?? That could account, a long period of mortifying self-repression that is, denying oneself even this simple solitary pleasure, could account for a certain “resurgence” if you will ( of what would have otherwise been perfectly normal naturally “released” fantasies and thoughts) in the form of something much more twisted which ends up manifesting itself in behaviour which we can only call deeply “anti-social”.
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Several threads are already out there talking the basics of this. Masturbation, sinful and wrong should be avoided. Also sex is healthier, not true, we came to that conclusion rather quickly, sex or release of sexual tention is not any healthier physically or mentally. There is too much evidence in history to prove that celibacy and abstinance in general of most things not healthy for you will increase you health a lot more then regular “release”. A celibate life wouldn’t be so important if someone is castrated, it is a sacrafice in a way and a choice of free will, if castrated then no urge, no choice, no real meaning, it isn’t just about not having sex or release, but what it entitles.

I agree with some other posts here, sexual build up of no release and celibacy have no conection with homosexuality and pedophylia, those are something born with a leaniance to or develope while young from certain circumstances.
 
The BigQ,
Myself, I am a born questioner.
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Born self justifier you say? Sorry, I’m not even Roman Catholic, but I can tell you’re full of “beans” (hey, it’s a family forum). You want things your way. That’s “fine” as it were. Keep it up, and find out either how lonely you will be, or worse yet, how troubled your marriage will be (should you find a wife who will either support your addiction, or who will sadly be unaware of it until it’s too late for her or your children.)

You’re probably right about one thing though - St.John Chrysostom did say that the “road to hell” is paved with the skulls of priests. It’s still hell though.
 
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Unfinished:
Well, I don’t “Take care of it” because I live chastely. I “get helped out” about every two weeks when I sleep.

On a different note, I know wet dreams are not sinful because we cannot control them, but is it wrong to enjoy them when they do happen? I don’t focus on it all day and make it sinful, but it is more of a “that felt nice” and move on with my life.

Thank God for the internet. I’m glad you all can’t see me. 😛
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Eww. Yes, thankfully this is an anonymous medium. Partially because you’d probably deck me for what I say next: Your name, “Unfinished” doesn’t seem to all that apt considering what you just wrote. 😉

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maximu culpa. Please, forum gods, don’t send down your thunderbolts!

On that same note, though, is that a regular thing for guys? (I’m a guy, in case my sentimental posts have ever confused anyone). Number of times that kind of dream has gotten me “there:” Once. Repeat: once. Ironically, it happened while at Franciscan U., and let me tell you, it made me furious. I was studying theology non-stop, and when I wasn’t studying, I was either at Mass or dinner with the guys–ARGUING THEOLOGY. I was also struggling with my faith, trying so hard, wrestling with 20-year-old hormones, and largely succeeding. And then THAT?!? What the?!? The next day God got an eyeful if he was reading my journal over my shoulder.

I’ve seen this topic mentioned a few times on these boards, and it shocks me. I’ve gone quite a while without any form of…ah…“release” and I’m neither losing my mind nor having those kinds of dreams.
 
Ana,
I hope your desire to remain a bachelor, isn’t due to the fact that you would prefer an empty relationship with images of people that don’t love you back, as opposed to the precious gift of a flesh and blood family with real people that you can love and be loved by in return.
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Sadly, it is very often the case that “permanent bachelordom” is related to sins of impurity. More sad (for the one afflicted with this vice) is that such sins (whether they be serial fornication or more “solitary” forms of addiction, like pornography) have the cumulative effect of isolating their perpetraitor. Even in otherwise “goodhearted” people, it trashes their ability to be intimate with others, and not simply in a sexual/marital context. It’s a vicious vice, in that it involves precisely the type of acts which we so associate with genuine intimacy - it takes the shell, but utterly guts the content. And if it was ever true that “familiarity breeds contempt”, this is certainly true of pornography - it never makes a man respect a woman or cherish the more intimate aspects of married life; quite the contrary, it wars against both of these things. It’s like sandpaper; it wears down our sensitivity. In fact, it’s quite odd - while a certain depraved “common sense” might make one think that “porno” would help someone’s married life, it never does. At best, it distracts already troubled couples from their issues/disinterest toward one another, by de facto making them adulterers (since I highly doubt a married couple “getting their kicks” from pornography are delighting in one another’s “charms” so to speak.)

I’ve also yet to know of a “porn addict”, btw., who can stick to just “normal” stuff…even if their interests don’t turn criminal (ex. pedophilia), inevitably they start developing interests which are abnormal, if not outright unnatural.

Like most males raised in an irreligious household, I too encountered these things in my youth, and it’s literally scarred me for life. The problem is even worse now for young men, as pornography has gained a certain “respectability” in popular culture, and is only a mouse click a way in most homes. I cannot help but agree with a Roman Catholic priest I know, who described television sets as the “tabernacle of satan”.
 
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montanaman:
I’ve seen this topic mentioned a few times on these boards, and it shocks me. I’ve gone quite a while without any form of…ah…“release” and I’m neither losing my mind nor having those kinds of dreams.
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It happens to me about every week and a half to two weeks. And I am living as I should, I promise!

My friend said he gets more than one a week. I guess it depends on how much testosterone you have. (I just made that up, but it could be true!) Of course, I know he is feeding some bad stuff to his mind, so that could have an effect also.

Not to go into my past because I am ashamed of myself, but once you cut out sex and masturbation completely, your craving for it diminishes a lot. It doesn’t go away, but it becomes something you just say “no” to rather than “I feel like I am going to die if I don’t do this!”
 
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