Can Catholics admit that no one knows what happens when you die?

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after you croak; you get two judgments

your interim judgment which determines your place of abode for the next few centuries; or days; (depending on the Father’s Will)
THEN (emphasis exaggerated on purpose) on the Final Day when Jesus cometh for the 2nd Time; you get your Final Judgment

Good Luck; behave yourselves
Upon death you learn at once your eternal fate: Heaven, Purgatory-then-Heaven, or Hell. This is called by Catholics the Particular Judgment and is carried out at once.

After Christ’s return comes the General Judgment or Last Judgment in which everyone’s fate is made known to everyone. What we learn of ourselves in the Particular Judgment we see of all at the Last Judgment, and so God’s justice and mercy are made known in full to all.

The Resurrection of the Dead takes place at the Last Judgment, at which point we regain our physical bodies. But before that our souls have already received our judgment.
 
There’s a part in Revelation that mentions something but I don’t want to repeat it
 
Wouldn’t it be presumptous to say that no one knows what happens when you die? What about God, doesn’t he know? What about people who have had NDEs? It is true I think that most of us have never experienced death and so can not know exactly what happens, but we can learn from others who have died and come back. And we can learn from God who sent his Son to teach us and who died and rose from the dead.

I know plenty of atheist’s who think they know what happens when you die also.

Here is one who got a second chance

http://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2012/04/09/as-i-lay-dying-a-voice-said-lets-go/
 
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Thanks for posting the above link. There is a book about this, as the article mentions. It is such an excellent book, which I have and have read a few times.

Many people disclaim NDE’s as being a sole activity of the brain as death nears. Adding to that, the NDE only happens to the dying person and there are no witnesses…or so they say…BUT…

I have another book by Dr. Raymond Moody about SDE’s - or “Shared Death Experiences” in which he interviews Many Many people who, as they sat by the deathbed of a loved one as they were dying, actually witnessed the same things NDE’s talk about: such as seeing angels come and take the dying, seeing a tunnel and another dimension opening, actually sharing in their life-review, and some travelling part way through the tunnel with the deceased and actually getting a glimpse of the next world.

Here is a website about this. https://www.near-death.com/experiences/triggers/shared-death-experiences.html
 
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Sorry to hear that you hold these ideas and doubts. Striving to overcome your doubts is a very good 2018 resolution.
 
Can Catholics admit that no one knows what happens when you die?
Of course EVERY religion has faith, but for true debate and discourse to occur, and for true peace to be achieved, I believe that we much all acknowledge that no one possesses this knowledge. Life is Chaos, so let’s all be kind to one another while we are still here on Earth.
We do not know in advance what will happen to us as individuals when we die because we don’t know in advance what the state of our soul will be. Only God knows that.

However, objectively we know with absolute certainty that anyone who dies in a state of grace is immediately saved (either Purgatory first then Heaven or straight to Heaven) and that anyone who dies in a state of mortal sin immediately goes to Hell forever.
 
Of course EVERY religion has faith, but for true debate and discourse to occur, and for true peace to be achieved, I believe that we much all acknowledge that no one possesses this knowledge. Life is Chaos, so let’s all be kind to one another while we are still here on Earth.
The only debate is whether or not to accept the truth of Christ. Christ told us what happens after death. Your statement is just wrong.
Life is chaos? What does that even mean?
 
Life is quite chaotic, although some people seem to embrace and increase the chaos all the more 😄. So why is the belief that the next life might be the opposite, a place where violence and chaos and darkness are opposed and denied, and only peace, happiness, and light reign, unkind?
 
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For example it means we do not have a lot of certainty about a great number of important things. We in faith impose a plan, an order, an intelligence on them that may one day prove to be mistaken. But so long as it regularly works that is good enough to say its “certain” and “true”.

Unfortunately the afterlife can only be coroborrated after its too late.

Near death experiences cannot be convincingly demonstrated to be any more than the common experience of random firing of synapses as the brain is gradually deprived of oxygen and consciouness recedes down to the lower depths of the primitive brainstem.
 
I admit there is much uncertainty in the Bible about what happens when you die. That is because Catholicism is more concerned with how you can live a godly life.
 
Life is quite chaotic, although some people seem to embrace and increase the chaos all the more 😄. S
Without a predominantly rational order to the universe though we wouldn’t be around to even question it.
 
Indeed, leading a good life so as to live forever in happiness is an imperfect but acceptable motive.

However doing so simply for love of God without thought or hope of a reward or afterlife (as per the Patriachs of old) is a more perfect goal and motive.
 
I don’t know if it works this way. The promise of continued, eternal existence is part and parcel of God"s love, and we recognize and embrace it in the Resurrection. I don’t know if that love makes sense if it faces annihilation, noble as that might sound. To contemplate the coming loss of the object of ones love is an awful thing.
 
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I see I think. The patriarchs didn’t have God’s full revelation anyway by then, and were operating on a greater level of hope/trust perhaps, looking forward but with less sight of the goal. Their faith didn’t preclude hope or belief in an afterlife, but was just a more basic hope in God in general.

I think we’d have to say that we have the best of both worlds now though. Love of God is the goal of our faith but the promise of spending eternity with that Object of our love only goes to further bolster that love.
 
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