Can Christians fully practice their beliefs today?

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Zach said:
Any employer that does that nowadays is asking to be ruined. Lawyers will be lined up with paperwork in hand ready to file civil lawsuits.
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This depends on where one lives. In many US states it is still legal to discriminate based on sexual orientation.
 
Rozellelily said:
Respectful Freedom of expression without repercussions-financial or political etc.Regardless of whether it’s in agreement or not of the social,political or religious culture of the day or if someone finds it offensive.
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Your last line, “regardless… if someone finds it offensive” is the opposite of “respectful”.

Which one is it, because it cannot be both.
 
You are living in a place and time where there is persecution.

Big difference between losing a multi million dollar entertainment contract and fearing for your life if you go to Mass. Prayers!!
 
Being LGBT is simply who somebody is, and “You’re going to hell because of who you are” isn’t an expression of the Christian faith. Being a black African is also who someone is. But a religious teaching like Apartheid rightfully doesn’t sit well with most of the West.

I stated upthread that I support free speech even for the bigots. But in a professional setting and under the rules of a private corporation, Folau’s consequences may have been warranted. I certainly don’t see it as proof that we Christians are persecuted.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
I don’t have a problem practicing my Christianity in USA. I am permitted to go to Mass, to pray, to go to church, to read Christian literature, to protest outside the PP clinic, to pray on the street (the police even send officers to help when it’s a big prayer rally or procession), to have Catholic items in my home etc and nobody bothers me or tries to get me fired. There have been countries in the world. Including USA in the past, where Catholics could not do some or all of these things. So I am thankful and blessed.
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Agree word for word.
 
It’s not opposite because offended can sometimes be subjective,individual & isn’t always based on reasonable thinking.
What offends one person doesn’t offend the next.

Respectful means stating an opinion openly without resorting to name calling,belittling etc.Someone unfortunately may still take offense.

For example,the issues in France that @claudine is experiencing.
If a person mentioned there’s the possibility of cultural or attitudal issues from some Muslim immigrants in France towards French people or different ways of life as contributing causal factors,then some Muslims may misperceive that as offensive and that people were being racist.

When people become too afraid in case someone gets offended,then real issues don’t end up being addressed.

People tip toe around things -because they don’t want to thought of as a bigot,racist,insensitive etc- and then can sometimes even accumulate in more bad things happening in society.
 
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Tbh i don’t know but here it’s generally thought of respectful if the person doesn’t shout over the other,doesn’t name call,swear at,degrade or put down,listens humbly to the other persons view and then responds back.
People may become passionate but not mean.

Maybe it’s different in US though because I have seen some of the news channels where interviewed guests are just yelling over each other & I think don’t they realize how counterproductive it is and no one can get what either one of them is saying?

Showing what I mean by offended having potential to be subjective-apparently China has banned a Winnie The Pooh movie because President Xi J(name removed by moderator)ing was offended and embarrassed over comparisons that were made of him to the bear:)
 
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How come the footy execs seem to have taken no offense to the other things mentioned in Folau’s bible quote like fornicators and atheists?

Is it only the mention of gay people that has got him sacked?
 
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Unless you or I are privy to the Human Resources department of the sports organization, we cannot say what was and what was not discussed. We know what is said in by the press.
 
I was afraid when we moved to Morocco to have any sign of being Christian. I dressed like a muslim while I lived there. I found out though that with any of my skin showing, like just my hands and my face, not neck or forehead or my hair at even though I was wearing a total two scarf jilbab and complete loose fitting long thick garments that I got harrassed by some men. So I decided to purchase and don the full thing, with gloves, fill length jilbsb and the complete face covering plus veil with just the eyes showing and fortunately I found a niqab that had a gauze over the eye holes so my skin colour coildn’t even be determined from my eyelids. It was the only way I coild be safe from harrassement from men while going out to do grocery shopping in broad daylight. I never went out at night.
That did stop all harrasment, but that wasn’t quite right either because the more modern dressed young muslim women gave me glaring hate looks. So then I was only able to go out wearing the full covering, face veil, gloves etc. and make sure to be with my husband. Eventually we got tired of the constant tension we felt. Fortunately we decided to leave and made it through the Atlas mountains at night and left Morocco just two weeks before the girls from Norway and Sweden were beheaded during their camping expedition in Ilimchil, a place we had been planning to visit in the mountains.
I had packed up all my statues rosaries and books and buried them deep in a box at the bottom of our stuff. We weren’t checked at the border coming in to the country, I think it was because I began wearing a jilbab and ankle length long sleeved loose fitting dresses out of respect for the Muslim culture on the ferry from Spain. I had decided to dress in solidarity with the muslims while I lived in Morocco as it is a Muslim country. I would do this in any Muslim country.
 
Those are abominable and horrible and the dead ones families will have to go the rest of their lives probably in grief and shock. Its awful!
 
Rozellelily said:
It seems double standards that he would be found in breach and banned for life but we have reports of other players doing such things like multiple players having sex with a girl,or beating up a girlfriend and etc and they still can play football.
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There we have it. That’s quite an important piece of information you provided. An opposing view (though Falou using a tone that’s harsher than what Paul wrote) is more dangerous than domestic violence. And it isn’t only in Australia. This is truly a post-fact world.
 
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Active homosexuality is regarded by the Church as a mortal sin, as are sex before marriage, adultery, etc. I am pretty certain that what Folau wrote is, or used to be the official teaching of Christianity, which means that people are allowed to have the inclination but should be chaste.

There are different degrees of persecution. If Folau can’t play again for the country he loves in the country he loves, it is a pretty harsh punishment even if he does have a lot of money. I know that it is very mild compared with being scared about your life!
 
It’s terrible, Claudine. The dangers were brought home to me when I went to a church in Nice not far from where the poor priest was killed, and there was a memorial for him. When I went to Westminster Abbey for an Easter service a few years ago, my husband was a bit worried. It must be dreadful to live with that kind of fear all the time.

I will pray for you.
 
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