Can demons kill you?

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Point taken per CAF rules. I’ve withdrawn my posts.
 
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Can you explain where in the CAF rules it says not to discuss the demonic? I see where it says we are not to discuss private revelations or visions, etc., but I’m not understanding how that applies to a physical attack by a demon.

These things do happen and Rasoleil stated he was assisted by an exorcist.

I think it’s important that people understand something like this is a possibility. I’m not saying it happens frequently but it isn’t super rare, either.
 
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Can you explain where in the CAF rules it says not to discuss the demonic?
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No no, rules state not to discuss unapproved attacks, apparitions etc. That was my response to a couple of people, just to give them a heads up on it. Even being assisted by an exorcist, it still has to be church approved to be discussed here as a thing that actually happened and its consequences.
 
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If somebody has a fear of flying and is worried that the airplane is going to crash, you can simply tell them that the plane won’t crash. You don’t need to tell them that you’re not metaphysically 100.00% certain that the plane won’t crash, or you don’t need to tell your child that you’re not 100.00% certain that somebody didn’t sneak under the bed.
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A more accurate analogy would be you telling someone that planes can’t crash, which would of course be inaccurate, and quickly ruin your credibility with said person.
 
It WAS church approved
I thought I stated that when I explained the church approved a priest I knew to conduct the exorcism. Contact the Arch. of New Orleans if you don’t believe me
They surely have records in it’s archives. In my case it was something that happened. It occured in 1976, and the exorcist was Monsigneur Jerome Mire, pastor of St. Maurice Church in New Orleans. Fr. Larosa, also a priest at the church, assisted him The exorcism occured at 6109 Royal Street, the red brick house,
and that house see has rarely been occupied for long since that time. Residents never stay there for long, and the house remains unoccupied more than occupied. No one wants to live in that accursed house, and I’m sure no one knows the history of that house) only blocks from the church. Archbishop Phillip Hannan was archbishop at the time. I deleted my other posts, but I wanted to post this to demonstrate that it was a church approved exorcism, and not some that I just made up or the result of a mental disorder. I didn’t assist, but was in the same house, as my friend lived there, and he wanted me there with him. Stupid me accompanied him. If anyone thinks that I’m making it up, and/or am crazy, I think I’ve given enough details that should make the even more concrete & credible. I suffer from PTSD from that horrible day, so don’t even dare think that I’m making this up.
 
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TK421:
If somebody has a fear of flying and is worried that the airplane is going to crash, you can simply tell them that the plane won’t crash. You don’t need to tell them that you’re not metaphysically 100.00% certain that the plane won’t crash, or you don’t need to tell your child that you’re not 100.00% certain that somebody didn’t sneak under the bed.
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A more accurate analogy would be you telling someone that planes can’t crash, which would of course be inaccurate, and quickly ruin your credibility with said person.
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And again: accuracy isn’t the #1 priority.

If somebody wants to be like that one student in school who was overeager to blurt out the correct answer to a question to the rest of the class, fine. That’s not an admirable quality though.

They don’t have to give somebody false information. A person can just say something like, “You’re not going to be hurt by a demon” etc. For somebody struggling with a phobia - an irrational fear of something - bringing up Padre Pio or some other exceedingly exceptional case is probably not helpful in the present moment, but it’s water under the bridge at this point.
 
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There may be people with phobias. But just from my experience I can’t see someone who has had an authentic attack as suffering from a phobia. They suffer from a reality, one that NO ONE can understand unless they have been through it. It’s not Hollywood, nor is it mental illness. I don’t walk around in fear every day, but I know when the evil is back around, and I don’t even have to say a word to my wife and yet she can sense it too. It’s an awareness, almost like another sense others do not have.

I get it some will not believe unless there is an official Church investigation. I’ve never felt the need to do so, I lived it and know what happened. And as though I’d need any more proof, when I went to Mass the first time after the attack, a Monday morning, I was scared and still shook up. I sat behind everyone else because I was so scared just knowing how real heaven and hell were for the first time. It was no accident the Gospel that morning was Jesus casting the demons into the swine. That made my hair stand up. But that could have been a coincidence, but then came time for the homily. The old priest walked down, walked right past everyone else until he got to me. We locked eyes and he says this to me “YOU BETTER BELIEVE DEMONS ARE REAL!” He didn’t know me or what had happened, it was my first time to ever see him. Being that I documented everything I went to the rectory after Mass to get a bulleton, and what was on the cover??? “TODAY THIS SCRIPTURE HAS BEEN FULFILLED IN YOUR HEARING!” All I can say is message loud and clear Lord.

A few days later I made an appointment to discuss me coming back into the Catholic Church and my wife who was raised without a faith coming into the Church. The priest revealed to me he never prepares a homily, he said he lets the Holy Spirit guide every homily he gives right then and there. So yes the Holy Spirit guided him to deliver that message to me that day.

So do I need an official Church investigation. No. Many miracles followed and continue to this day. Now the attacks are different, they are triggered when I’ve written nice pieces about how Jesus kicked Satan’s $#& and also when I’m physically, mentally, a spiritual wore out, in other words, when most vulnerable. My faith will never end, so neither will the attacks, that’s just the way life is now and I accept it. I do suffer at times, but the attacks also increase and rejuvenate my faith. Some of us just have a huge target on our back, and id like to think it’s the Cross the Lord picked out just for me. It is what it is.
 
Fear of Death is by nature . normal.

And we are called to overcome that Fear of Death…

This can be via Faith in God - and Asking for His Gift of Fortitude
 
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And again: accuracy isn’t the #1 priority.
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I didn’t say it was. Try reading the post again. All I advocated was to not tell a blatant falsity. Saying the plane won’t crash is fine. Saying that planes can’t crash isn’t, as is probably counterproductive if the person you are talking to has a brain. (Most people don’t place a lot of trust in those that lie to them.).
 
Job 1:12 doesn’t say that, nor does it make sense. Why would God give a demon permission to kill someone?

For everyone - isn’t a bad idea to tell a person that is likely young and obviously having some concerns that a demon might kill them?

OP - you are not going to be killed by a demon. Talk to your priest.
 
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Job 1:12 doesn’t say that, nor does it make sense. Why would God give a demon permission to kill someone?

For everyone - isn’t a bad idea to tell a person that is likely young and obviously having some concerns that a demon might kill them?

OP - you are not going to be killed by a demon. Talk to your priest.
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I agree… Could be an emotional problem going down
 
Demons can physically attack you. It seems that many people don’t believe it, but the demons can pretty much do anything to you if God allows them. Demons can set fire to your home, make you have an auto accident, cause other problems. They can afflict you with skin problems, respiratory problems, and bad health. This is called “oppression”. You don’t have to be a saint to experience it, because demons will do anything out of spite if God allows it.
 
Didn’t God permit Satan to afflict Job? Satan went to God and asked God’s permission to torment Job, and God granted Satan’s request.
 
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Read accounts of Padre Pio’s experiences with demons. They frequently physically attacked him. Demons can do nothing without the permission of God.
 
I have been studying up on this subject. It is not rocket science to know the devil is spiteful and full of hate. If he can do something to someone, he will. (Of course, God most of the time intervenes.) I have read books and am familiar with the various exorcists’ explanation of the different ways evil spirits can torment. First, is the most common, temptation. Then there is obsession, which affects the mind. After that, it is oppression, which attacks the person in work, health, finances, etc. Finally, there is possession, which can mean a long fight to cast the demon from the person. In addition, there is infestation, which means that evil spirits sometimes are allowed to manifest in a house or building, to scare people, and that is something that happened several years ago in a house in Gary, IN. That was the case where the family all needed exorcisms. One kid crawled up the wall backwards. The girl levitated. A priest from there was able to do exorcisms and the family moved away. Zak Bagins who is a paranormal investigator, bought the house, but he later had it demolished because too many things happened while they tried to film a documentary.

I have also read information by Adam Blai, a Peritus of the church who lives in Pennsylvania. If you were to watch some of his videos, you would see that much of this paranormal/demonic stuff is well-explained by him.

The reason I have read up on it is just a mixture of many things. One of the biggest reasons is self-defense. I think if one knows of something they can be prepared. My sister had paranormal happenings in her house, although we don’t know if they were demonic. I still wouldn’t feel comfortable with something like that going on in my house.
 
While the statement is true that demons can do nothing without God’s permission, it seems trivial because nothing ever happens unless He permits it.
 
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