Can disbelievers ever find peace in life?

[Bruno_Schulz]

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What are God’s judgments? Here are some…**

**According to your word Realcatholicgk, we in fact all go to hell. Why not make an appointment there, all of us wearing badges with a CATHOLIC ANSWERS logo on’t.

On the other hand, you seem to indicate, that a mother should understand, if God loves the murder of her Child?
Others here, seem not to understand your posting neither, so it can’t be my miserable ability of understanding English only…

It’s hard to believe though, that we absolutely would be in the state to judge what’s God’s judgements for hell, as you list:
*IDOLATERS
*THOSE WHO TAKE GOD’S NAME IN VAIN and THOSE WHO CURSE THEIR NEIGHBORS
*THOSE WHO DISHONOR THEIR PARENTS
*THOSE WHO INDULGE IN PREMARITAL SEX or EXTRAMARITAL SEX
*HOMOSEXUALS
*FILTHY PORN-ADDICTS
*DRUNKARDS
*THOSE WHO MURDER (esp. PRO-CHOICERS)
*WITCHES AND SORCERERS
*LIARS
*THIEVES
*THOSE WHO DO NOT SUBMIT TO JESUS

Thank goodness you add it doesn’t have to happen!

Let me add a defamatory word:
Remember to have a good lawyer with you when you appear before God, for they turn every condemnable black into a shining bright white to God’s delight.

‘t was a joke! - Hey – I didn’t mean it! Clear?!

Let’s be sure, that God knows what’s behind everything we did and omitted, knowing every side-aspect of our lives.
Yes, and keep in mind too, Mat. 7:14= But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Let’s be among those who are on this way, but let us never dare to predict who is not. (Luke 6, 37 - Jakobus 4,12 - Rom 14,4 sorry I don’t know the engl. name for Jakobus might be one of you knows)
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[Bruno_Schulz]

**sorry I don’t know the engl. name for Jakobus might be one of you knows)
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Thanks a lot
someone wrote it to me
it’s James 4:12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?

 

[Sailka]

reply to:
Worldly people are always heavily weighed down with the guilt of conscience. There’s just no way they can find true inner peace without Jesus Christ because that spiritual void created by God can be filled with nothing less than God Himself.
I remember when I had gone to confession for the first time since I was a kid. I couldn’t believe the difference in my interior life. I felt this PROFOUND interior peace and tranquility I’d never known before. It’s was like a thousand pound weight had been lifted off my back. In my life before confession, I’d been suffering immensely from guilt but didn’t know any better because I had no better experience to compare it to. I was indeed suffering but didn’t know it because of a lack of comparison. To use an analogy, it would be like having a migrane headache all your life only to have it taken away and realizing how tremendously better you felt and how much you had actually been suffering before the cure.

You can’t judge and say that there is no way you can find inner peace without Jesus Christ, this you don’t know, you assume.

[SIGN]

• My best friend is a disbeliever and she has true inner peace because she is truthfully happy and has an enormous amount of love in her self and to give. This is true everlasting peace./

 

[Sailka]

**Tony where did you get " Atheist, Into Self Only friends" from what bonharp said? **

Nope, chief Alamo Google librarian Real. My own idea; I’ve known a few atheists. Their reality is Themselves. My quote: “There is no future in myself, or in Atheism” (c) Tony
Second (c) Tony Quote: ‘Me, Myself, I get Boring’

The Alamo doesn’t?

 

[Realcatholicgk]

**According to your word Realcatholicgk, we in fact all go to hell. Why not make an appointment there, all of us wearing badges with a CATHOLIC ANSWERS logo on’t.

**Actually Bruno, if it wasn’t for Jesus’s sacrifice that is exactly where we would all go along with the protestants that follow the devil. We all deserve to go to hell! I do, don’t you? ****

On the other hand, you seem to indicate, that a mother should understand, if God loves the murder of her Child?
Others here, seem not to understand your posting neither, so it can’t be my miserable ability of understanding English only…
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It is their miserable understanding of God and His mercy? **

It’s hard to believe though, that we absolutely would be in the state to judge what’s God’s judgements for hell, as you list:
*IDOLATERS
*THOSE WHO TAKE GOD’S NAME IN VAIN and THOSE WHO CURSE THEIR NEIGHBORS
*THOSE WHO DISHONOR THEIR PARENTS
*THOSE WHO INDULGE IN PREMARITAL SEX or EXTRAMARITAL SEX
*HOMOSEXUALS
*FILTHY PORN-ADDICTS
*DRUNKARDS
*THOSE WHO MURDER (esp. PRO-CHOICERS)
*WITCHES AND SORCERERS
*LIARS
*THIEVES
*THOSE WHO DO NOT SUBMIT TO JESUS

Thank goodness you add it doesn’t have to happen!

That was and is the point; It doesn’t have to happen!

Let me add a defamatory word:
Remember to have a good lawyer with you when you appear before God, for they turn every condemnable black into a shining bright white to God’s delight.

You were joking! But Bruno, We will each have the best lawyer possible, Jesus will mediate on our behalf. He being Human and God know us better then we know ourselves.

‘t was a joke! - Hey – I didn’t mean it! Clear?!
Let’s be sure, that God knows what’s behind everything we did and omitted, knowing every side-aspect of our lives.
Yes, and keep in mind too, Mat. 7:14= But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

**A hint ~ There is a small sign over top of the door saying: CATHOLIC! **
Let’s be among those who are on this way, but let us never dare to predict who is not. (Luke 6, 37 - Jakobus 4,12 - Rom 14,4 sorry I don’t know the engl. name for Jakobus might be one of you knows)

** Bruno, we don’t have to predict.
Jesus told us: “Truly, truly I say to you, the one believing has eternal life. I am the bread of life. Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness and died. This is the bread which has come down from heaven - in order that anyone who eats of Him should not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If any eats of this bread he will live forever, and the bread is my flesh which is given for the life of the world”. Therefore the Jews quarreled among themselves saying, “How is He able to give to us His flesh to eat?” Therefore Jesus said to them, “Truly truly I say to you, if you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you do not have life in yourselves. The one eating My flesh and drinking My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.” John 6: 47-54**

 

[Realcatholicgk]

Nope, chief Alamo Google librarian Real. My own idea; I’ve known a few atheists. Their reality is Themselves. My quote: “There is no future in myself, or in Atheism” (c) Tony
Second (c) Tony Quote: ‘Me, Myself, I get Boring’

The Alamo doesn’t?

I know an atheist. I told him: : It is OK that you don’t believe in God, He is big enough to take that! You just better be glad that he believes in you! He sent His son to save you and if you reject Him you reject life itself!"

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

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I told (an atheist): It is OK that you don’t believe in God, He is big enough to take that! You just better be glad that he believes in you! He sent His Son to save you and if you reject Him you reject life itself!"

**Well said :yup: - though I doubt if a person who doesn’t know nor agrees that God is real, knows what we are talking about if said just like this. It’s as if a Hindu would tell us; “Charma, the son of God Hisma came to save you…”
you’d noddingly smile at it and let him talk along. :tiphat:

What we need is further understanding and loving words, for Jesus said love each other - and it was Him who loved disbelievers when He was among us, much to the disagreement of the Phariseeans.
Lets not be a Pharisee!:dts:

And no Realcatholicgk, we are not entitled to say, Protestants are going to hell or follow the devil! Many of them are better Christians than several Catholics indeed. It’s not our merit having been born into Catholicism, as it’s not their fault having been born into Protestantism.:hug1:

Who are we, to judge your neighbour?

And by the way: You really ought to look into the thread
DO YOU BELIEVE IN HELL
To see this post, go to:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=286941&goto=newpost**
where they say - hell is just purifying :banghead:
There you could help me, but not insisting that all non-Catholics go to hell
surely a lot of Catholics go to hell, whilst other denominations we’ll find in heaven :bible1:
Mt 7:22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

 

[Nelson_Carvalho]

Olá Bruno, sou Nelson Carvalho, católico romano de Porto Alegre – Brasil. O que você descreve também acontece bastante no Brasil, não se surpreenda. E creia-me, para quem não crê, nenhuma explicação é possível. Para quem crê, nenhuma explicação é necessária.

Bruno Hello, I am Nelson Carvalho, Roman Catholic from Porto Alegre - Brazil. What you describe is also quite in Brazil, do not be surprised. And believe me, for those who do not believe, no explanation is possible. For those who believe, no explanation is necessary …

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

**you say
“What you describe is also quite in Brazil, do not be surprised.”
I didn’t quite get this.
You mean it’s everywhere se same?
Yes of course it’s everywhere same thing. Christianity was at first Catholic only, is universal - everywhere the same, and so are people actually.
Sadly enough some wedged off the mother church and thought to have a better one - which of course was wrong. Still - the Catholic Church made huge mistakes around medieval times, which originally led to this secede from the mother Church. We can’t help this today. Not really anyway.

My uncle was a missionary near Sao Paolo, in the 50th up to the 70th for the PROTESTANT Church. He was ever so religious and made his 9 (nine) Children real Christians. They all live in Germany now after this uncles death.
Let’s simply beware of saying this and that brothers in Christ will go to hell. We can not tell, and in the bible it says: Do not dare to!

Good Christians, who are born into any split group of Christianity, might be nearer to God than we are, and they really find their peace in life, for they live in God.
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[Henning]

There is a peace that the world can offer to unbelievers,

John 14:27 **Peace **I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, do I give unto you…"

I don’t know exactly how this peace comes about but maybe has to do with being a person of the world and worshipping ‘mammon’ instead of God (Mt 6:24)

 

[Rex_Tremendae]

No. The soul of the infidel and the heretic knows no peace. They can deceive themselves but, in reality, their soul is longing for the peace that only Christ can bring through the Holy Catholic Church.

 

[Henning]

No. The soul of the infidel and the heretic knows no peace. They can deceive themselves but, in reality, their soul is longing for the peace that only Christ can bring through the Holy Catholic Church.

Incorrect. From even a simple reading of John 14:27 its clear that the world offers a ‘type’ of peace. Not a true lasting peace with Christ but the peace of a person of the world from the world.

James 4:4 “…whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.”

 

[po18guy]

Incorrect. From even a simple reading of John 14:27 its clear that the world offers a ‘type’ of peace. Not a true lasting peace with Christ but the peace of a person of the world from the world.

James 4:4 “…whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.”

Ah, but worldly peace is a false peace. It is a deception of the evil one, since he is prince of this world. There cannot be two meanings of peace - just as you cannot serve two masters. You must choose one, for it is true and the other remains an illusion.

 

[KingAlfred]

Those who deny God seem to fall into at least two categories: Those who think very superficially and those who have a burning desire to prove that God does not exist. The first are in artificial bliss, seeking and finding worldly things that appeal to their senses. They exhibit a benign ignorance of God, seeking only to live according to His principles, while avoiding Him. If there is a heaven, they hope to enter by default.

The second group are perhaps much more to be pitied: They exist in a living hell, of their own construction. They are driven to deny the Creator, apparently forgetting that you cannot prove a negative. Still sells a lot of books, though. Educated fools, they are, assuming themselves to be the pinnacle of human intelligence. Why don’t they cure the common cold, then?

The first group is always slightly uneasy about life. The second is openly hostile. Neither is happy at their core.

Good points. The second group invariably becomes unhappy in old age, as they begin to physically fall apart. They begin to rethink their entire life-philosophies, out of desperation. Embarassed to admit it, they usually live in a private Hell of their own making.

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

There is a peace that the world can offer to unbelievers:
John 14:27 **Peace **I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, do I give unto you…"
I don’t know exactly how this peace comes about but maybe has to do with being a person of the world and worshipping ‘mammon’ instead of God

**They simply mistake “peace”, with “not war”. That means no passage at arms; a kind of continuous cease-fire between people, neighbours, relatives.

The peace of Jesus Christ is something entirely different indeed. Even a soldier amidst the battlefield might have his peace in Jesus Christ. Many of them died on war, in peace of Jesus Christ. (Hardly any soldier ever made war).

The world thinks primarily ostensible, whereas
Christian thoughts include God in everything and every idividuals relationship to God. The one and only God, who loves those, who life in Him and His word.
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[Realcatholicgk]

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Hi folks,

The question is: “Can disbelievers ever find peace in life”? Sure the day they start to believe! We call it Amazing Grace.

Even Protestants can be saved by it!

God Bless**