Can I Be Friends With A White Witch?

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We do seem to be straying off topic. It is not a sin to hang out with sinners so I personally have no problem being friends with a white witch. Of course I have never actually known any so it doesn’t matter much anyhow.
 
catharina said:
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Do I have to?

There is no logical connection from “I would be concerned about the influence of this person on my children” to “I cannot have this person as a friend.” I would be friends with all sorts of people whom I wouldn’t trust with my children.

As a matter of fact, I wouldn’t automatically rule out trusting a “witch” (if by this we mean a Neo-Pagan) to care for my daughter under certain circumstances, but I would certainly have concerns about it. I would have no problem allowing a Neo-Pagan to care for my grandmother, except that I know how my grandmother would feel about it if she were capable of expressing her opinions (to be frank, much of my anger on this thread arises from my experiences with my grandmother’s paranoid attitude toward “bad influences”), and so I’d take that into consideration.

You are being driven by fear here. Jesus came to deliver us from fear.

Edwin
 
Contarini said:
Do I have to?

There is no logical connection from “I would be concerned about the influence of this person on my children” to “I cannot have this person as a friend.” I would be friends with all sorts of people whom I wouldn’t trust with my children.
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What is your definition of a “friend”? If you wouldn’t have them to your house, or let them watch the kids while you run out to the store for more pop and chips, are they really your friend? Or just an acquaintance?
 
Agreed. It does take a lifetime. Question: Would someone re-acquant me on the dogmatic position of what the Church says about Sanctification? Are they talking about Sanctifying Grace which we obtain through repentance in the Confessional? Thanks.🙂
 
Contarini said:
Do I have to?

There is no logical connection from “I would be concerned about the influence of this person on my children” to “I cannot have this person as a friend.” I would be friends with all sorts of people whom I wouldn’t trust with my children.

As a matter of fact, I wouldn’t automatically rule out trusting a “witch” (if by this we mean a Neo-Pagan) to care for my daughter under certain circumstances, but I would certainly have concerns about it. I would have no problem allowing a Neo-Pagan to care for my grandmother, except that I know how my grandmother would feel about it if she were capable of expressing her opinions (to be frank, much of my anger on this thread arises from my experiences with my grandmother’s paranoid attitude toward “bad influences”), and so I’d take that into consideration.

You are being driven by fear here. Jesus came to deliver us from fear.

Edwin
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I’m driven by my Catholic faith. I don’t know what drives you.
 
jmcrae said:
What is your definition of a “friend”? If you wouldn’t have them to your house, or let them watch the kids while you run out to the store for more pop and chips, are they really your friend? Or just an acquaintance?
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Well I have friends that many here would judge as wrong to have. Guess what? It doesn’t matter. I won’t be sent to hell for being a friend.
 
jmcrae said:
What is your definition of a “friend”? If you wouldn’t have them to your house, or let them watch the kids while you run out to the store for more pop and chips, are they really your friend? Or just an acquaintance?
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That’s precisely my point.
 
My definition of a friend is someone I don’t have to lie to just to pretend I’m being good. I can be myself with them and nothing is held back between us. There are some Catholics I wouldn’t trust either, and I don’t mean all liberal ones.
 
For someone to be my friend, he or she must be trustworthy in an emergency - where I wouldn’t hesitate to let him or her care for my parents or for children. Witches don’t pass that test. Is that a really high standard? I don’t think so.
 
catharina said:
For someone to be my friend, he or she must be trustworthy in an emergency - where I wouldn’t hesitate to let him or her care for my parents or for children. Witches don’t pass that test. Is that a really high stabdard? I don’t think so.
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That works for you. Let the rest of us be friends with whoever we want to be friends with. Is that really a high standard? I don’t think so.
 
goofyjim said:
That works for you. Let the rest of us be friends with whoever we want to be friends with. Is that really a high standard? I don’t think so.
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goofyjim or jimgoofy - my response to the OP remains the same. FRIENDS with a WITCH? Dangerous. Potentially very dangerous.
 
Hi. As far as I know, I have never been friends with anyone truly interested in the occult. Have I heard stories? Yes. Have I had some personal experiences which I could not explain except perhaps through Grace of God? Yes. Do I think being friends with someone interested in the occult could be dangerous for “MY” soul? Yes. Do I think that sometimes pre-judgement prevents knowledge? Yes. And that can be a loss.

This is for the individual to decide. The Church can’t follow us every step of the way through our spiritual life, nor can the Bible. We need to judge some things for ourselves.
 
catharina said:
goofyjim or jimgoofy - my response to the OP remains the same. FRIENDS with a WITCH? Dangerous. Potentially very dangerous.
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And my response remains the same. If you have already been trusted friends there is no reason to cut it off just because of the revelation. Things like this must be decided on an individual basis. Its not a one size fits all.
 
jmcrae said:
What is your definition of a “friend”? If you wouldn’t have them to your house
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I would.
or let them watch the kids while you run out to the store for more pop and chips, are they really your friend?
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If I were friends with a person whom I knew to be a slave to certain kinds of vice, I wouldn’t want them to babysit my children, but I wouldn’t cut off the friendship either.

Perhaps because I am an extrovert, I don’t distinguish as sharply between friends and acquaintances as you seem to do.

Edwin
 
Contarini said:
I would.

If I were friends with a person whom I knew to be a slave to certain kinds of vice, I wouldn’t want them to babysit my children, but I wouldn’t cut off the friendship either.

Perhaps because I am an extrovert, I don’t distinguish as sharply between friends and acquaintances as you seem to do.

Edwin
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From the Catechism of the Catholic Church. ~~~ 2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to “unveil” the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone. ~~~ So would I chosse to be friends with someone who’s involved in this? No. Contarini, your religion might indicate differently.
 
Contarini said:
I know for a fact that the Catholic Church teaches that Jesus Christ has conquered the powers of evil. So you are simply wrong here.

Edwin
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Your word means zip to me. Do I want to become FRIENDS with those who oppose Jesus Christ? Think about that.
 
catharina said:
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church. ~~~ 2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to “unveil” the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone. ~~~ So would I chosse to be friends with someone who’s involved in this? No. Contarini, your religion might indicate differently.
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Well my faith is Catholic but I will have any friend I choose as long as they don’t violate my trust.
 
catharina said:
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church. ~~~ 2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to “unveil” the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone. ~~~ So would I chosse to be friends with someone who’s involved in this? No. Contarini, your religion might indicate differently.
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There are many Catholic visionaries who could fit that description. Need I mention any recent ones?
 
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