Can I raise this child if I'm not the father?

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I can give an answer to that. There is a legal presumtption that the childnof a married woman is the husband’s child. Legally speaking he is the father and he is obligated to that child. To rebute the presumption either the putative father would have to initiate a lawsuit to rebut that presumption, or the wife must get divorced and seek the rebuttal of that presumption. What you are suggesting to him is not as easy as you think.
a DNA test and simply showing the judge the child which will be biracial when both parents are white, plenty of evidence the child is not his. If he waits until the child is born, signs the birth certificate and begins to raise the child for even one day then he could be stuck but he needs to fight right now or lose all hope of challenging later on.
 
You should consult a lawyer and find out how remaining married and accepting a child that isn’t your own will affect you financially. It is always doubtful in these kind of circumstances that this was her first affair, and it is even more doubtful that it will be her last. Child support payments will not go away even if your wife eventually does. If you don’t have any other children with her then now is the easiest time for you to leave.
:eek: He loves her and Catholics consider marraige a sacrament we promise before God. We don’t just bow out when we face difficulties and problems?!

mlz

P.S. Adoption is also a very good idea, but I do think you both can love this child!
 
If he stays with the marriage and raises the child then that is his decision, and I honestly hope for the best for all involved. He just needs to hear other options other than “staying is the only Catholic thing to do” because that is just false. It is still possible to forgive someone yet move on with your life without them, you are not required to be with everyone you forgive.

This is more than just a marriage difficulty, this is catastrophic betrayal and disrespect. I am convinced also that this is not the first time and that she will likely do it again.

If he signs that birth certificate he is stuck in this for the rest of his life regardless if he regrets it later on. She could have 10 more affairs and even if he decides enough is enough at some point he will still be on the hook financially for a child that is not his for decades. Under the law she could have another affair, then divorce, and she could take the kid, the house, half of the assets, live with the baby daddy and he would be on the hook for all of it.

Every day he sees that kid he will be reminded of what she did to him, and so will everyone else they know, even strangers will know.
 
Second, proving adultery is extremely difficult.
I don’t see why it would be difficult to prove if the child is black and the married couple are both white. And add to that the fact that the husband is medically infertile.
 
If he stays with the marriage and raises the child then that is his decision, and I honestly hope for the best for all involved. He just needs to hear other options other than “staying is the only Catholic thing to do” because that is just false. It is still possible to forgive someone yet move on with your life without them, you are not required to be with everyone you forgive.

This is more than just a marriage difficulty, this is catastrophic betrayal and disrespect. I am convinced also that this is not the first time and that she will likely do it again.

If he signs that birth certificate he is stuck in this for the rest of his life regardless if he regrets it later on. She could have 10 more affairs and even if he decides enough is enough at some point he will still be on the hook financially for a child that is not his for decades. Under the law she could have another affair, then divorce, and she could take the kid, the house, half of the assets, live with the baby daddy and he would be on the hook for all of it.

Every day he sees that kid he will be reminded of what she did to him, and so will everyone else they know, even strangers will know.
Almost everything you say here is true for any married couple with children, even when there has been no infidelity. Any time that a man gets married and has children, he takes the risk that his wife could have an affair, divorce him, take the kids and half the assets, and leave him on the hook for child support.

But in a good marriage, the husband and wife trust each other not to leave, and have good reason for having that trust. It sounds to me like the OP and his wife are at least starting to build that trust, if they don’t have it already. Mathematically speaking, there is always some risk. But the only no-risk solution is never to get married, and I don’t think that that is a good option for most men.
 
I haven’t read through all posts but just wanted to point out a few things to think about. I know you say that your wife doesn’t know how to track down this guy, but I think she should make a good effort in trying. Go to the bar and ask around. This guy might be a regular and somebody may know him.

First of all, the guy has a moral right to know that he may have a child. Second of all, it is in the child’s best interest that he is found. Especially if this child is of mixed race, it could cause considerable emotional distress on this child to grow up not knowing where he/she came from. Biology matters. To some more than others, think about the possibility that this child could grow up being one of those people that it’s really important to? Would you rather tell her “this is the guys name” or would you rather tell her “we have no clue who he is, you were the result of a one night stand in a bar?”. Think about it. I think that the latter will be very painful for her to hear. This child has a right to know who her father is. So make an effort to find him for her sake.

I also think you should consult an attorney to protect yourself. This may not be the first time and it may not be the last that your wife strays. I know that’s hard to hear. You haven’t had time to truly heal from her adultery and I suspect that when this child is born, it can cause a lot of strain on your marriage and she may divorce you. You don’t want to be on the hook for a child that’s not yours for the next 18+ years (including college expenses). And I also think that you shouldn’t be on record as the legal father if you can’t fully 100% love this child as your own. It’s not fair to the child. Believe me, the child will grow up suspecting something is off with you and it will cause her pain. So you really, really need to get this figured out. Get some counseling, talk to your priest. But do not attempt to raise this kid as your own unless you really can put everything aside and love this child unconditionally as your own.

I know marriages can heal from adultery. It’s possible. But the healing process takes TIME, and unfortunately your marriage doesn’t have that luxury right now with this baby on the way. So be careful and consult with an attorney.
 
Almost everything you say here is true for any married couple with children, even when there has been no infidelity. Any time that a man gets married and has children, he takes the risk that his wife could have an affair, divorce him, take the kids and half the assets, and leave him on the hook for child support.

But in a good marriage, the husband and wife trust each other not to leave, and have good reason for having that trust. It sounds to me like the OP and his wife are at least starting to build that trust, if they don’t have it already. Mathematically speaking, there is always some risk. But the only no-risk solution is never to get married, and I don’t think that that is a good option for most men.
I would not consider this a good marriage. Regarding risk, people who have established that they are willing to cheat have a huge statistical probability to do it again.
 
I would not consider this a good marriage. Regarding risk, people who have established that they are willing to cheat have a huge statistical probability to do it again.
I think that the OP is in a much better position to judge his wife’s contrition, his wife’s trustworthiness, and the strength of his marriage than either you or I are.

And given your argument here, why do you think that any man should take the risk of entering marriage in the first place? Isn’t it a huge leap of faith for any man to trust that his wife-to-be will be faithful to him 100% of the time for the next 30, 40, 50, or more years? Given the current divorce rate, isn’t every man who enters marriage placing himself at a huge risk for all the bad things that you mentioned in your previous post (e.g., wife leaving, taking half the assets plus child support, taking the kids, etc.)?

(I’m concentrating on men here, since that is the specific topic of discussion. But obviously the risks for women entering marriage are high as well, though not exactly the same set of risks as for men.)
 
Yes! You can raise this child, and do it with love.

There is a reason you are still with your wife.

Just accept it, St. Joseph did
 
What horrible advice here, I would immediately get an attorney and leave. She is going to walk all over you for the rest of your life, and this won’t likely be the last time she sneaks around behind your back. Just my opinion, take it for what it is, but I would personally rather die than stay in such a relationship. And raising someone elses child that slept with my wife, and making it obvious to everyone in the world due to the racial differences, a whole other level of horror that is inconceivable to me?

Bring us back to the days of torture in the iron maiden or rack, much more preferable, it will be over much quicker. This is an endless lifetime of emotional and soul destroying torture.
This is an incredibly insensitive post, which seems to have the sole intention of stirring up trouble for the OP. You don’t know a damn thing about what his wife will do in the future. He has stated that he wants to stay with her and that he trusts that nothing like this will happen again. I think he knows better than you do. You seem to be projecting some personal anger into this thread, and it’s not necessary. If the OP decides to raise this kid as his own, then anyone who sneers or makes jokes about the racial differences is a low person who shouldn’t even be on the OP’s radar. Bad things happen, and strong people move on and make the best of the situation. That is what the OP is trying to do.
 
This is an incredibly insensitive post, which seems to have the sole intention of stirring up trouble for the OP. You don’t know a damn thing about what his wife will do in the future. He has stated that he wants to stay with her and that he trusts that nothing like this will happen again. I think he knows better than you do. You seem to be projecting some personal anger into this thread, and it’s not necessary. If the OP decides to raise this kid as his own, then anyone who sneers or makes jokes about the racial differences is a low person who shouldn’t even be on the OP’s radar. Bad things happen, and strong people move on and make the best of the situation. That is what the OP is trying to do.
I think most of the responses here are insensitive actually, they are purely sympathetic to the adulterous wife and the child that is not his. As a Catholic I don’t agree with abortion, but outside of making sure that does not happen, I don’t think the husband has any duty towards the child at all. Someone needs to stick up for the husband and let him know he has other options. People are giving him all of this advice that could potentially destroy him. I haven’t seen any racial jokes myself here, I only made the comment that the race will only a be a factor that compounds the pain since it will be obvious the child is not his.

I am being sensitive, to the person who was wronged and the one who is asking for advice.
he is not obligated to stick with the situation and it could very easily get much worse.

You can most certainly forgive someone but chose to move on with your life, there is no requirement in forgiveness to dedicate your life to them.
 
Please don’t think you are somehow at fault for this, not paying enough attention to her is not justification for someone to do this to you, not even close.
I agree that my lack of care was not justifiable excuse for her to have the affair, but that doesn’t make me faultless. Had I tried then instead of now, the temptations would not have interfered with our marriage. Mine being working all the time at my job, while hers was the comfort of a stranger. Both were wrong, it’s just that her mistake now has a large part in both our lives.
 
I applaud you for staying with you wife and keeping the baby! I know that is what the church says, forgive and turn the other cheek. Many men would not have stepped up to the plate like you have. Your wife is very BLESSED to have you! This unborn baby is BLESSED to have you. God Bless you and your family. Please keep us updated on how your wife and the baby! Also if you are open to it, like to know how your family and your friends are when you tell them…

And of course I am sure we would all love to know if the baby is a by or girl and when the bundle of joy is born…
Thank you for your enthusiastic optimism, Liny. I came to this site to ask for help in my time of need. If I am open about my problems, it is only because I trust everyone here to talk about them. I don’t have the luxury of friends, but I do plan on telling my parents this weekend. I believe I’ll have to break the truth (or as much of it as I can) to them as delicately as possible. @SpidersfromMars has suggested that I should tell them we were separated when the affair happened. That isn’t a bad suggestion, and not too far off from the truth either.

As for the child’s gender, my wife has always wanted a daughter, while I often wanted a son. No matter what the gender, I’m sure we will love the child as our own.
 
I haven’t read through all posts but just wanted to point out a few things to think about. I know you say that your wife doesn’t know how to track down this guy, but I think she should make a good effort in trying. Go to the bar and ask around. This guy might be a regular and somebody may know him.

First of all, the guy has a moral right to know that he may have a child. Second of all, it is in the child’s best interest that he is found. Especially if this child is of mixed race, it could cause considerable emotional distress on this child to grow up not knowing where he/she came from. Biology matters. To some more than others, think about the possibility that this child could grow up being one of those people that it’s really important to? Would you rather tell her “this is the guys name” or would you rather tell her “we have no clue who he is, you were the result of a one night stand in a bar?”. Think about it. I think that the latter will be very painful for her to hear. This child has a right to know who her father is. So make an effort to find him for her sake.

I also think you should consult an attorney to protect yourself. This may not be the first time and it may not be the last that your wife strays. I know that’s hard to hear. You haven’t had time to truly heal from her adultery and I suspect that when this child is born, it can cause a lot of strain on your marriage and she may divorce you. You don’t want to be on the hook for a child that’s not yours for the next 18+ years (including college expenses). And I also think that you shouldn’t be on record as the legal father if you can’t fully 100% love this child as your own. It’s not fair to the child. Believe me, the child will grow up suspecting something is off with you and it will cause her pain. So you really, really need to get this figured out. Get some counseling, talk to your priest. But do not attempt to raise this kid as your own unless you really can put everything aside and love this child unconditionally as your own.

I know marriages can heal from adultery. It’s possible. But the healing process takes TIME, and unfortunately your marriage doesn’t have that luxury right now with this baby on the way. So be careful and consult with an attorney.
You’re right, we do have to stop procrastinating and at least try to find the father. Consciously, I know that this is the right thing to do, but another part of me wishes to never see the man. There’s also the fact that my wife has a lot of regret about the affair, and doesn’t want to relieve it. Regardless, I will ask her if she would be okay with going back to this bar to find out as much as possible. I would accompany her, of course. For the sake of the baby’s health, as well as the Father’s right to know, we will at least try.

I have managed to talk to my parish priest. His words helped me out tremendously, and set me out on the path towards acceptance of this child. His feelings, just as many others were, that if I could not love this child as my own, I should consider adoption. However, he believed that this child may also be an opportunity to strengthen our love. Regardless of his/her conception, this child is innocent. It is a permanent part of my wife, and if I truly love her, then it is also a part of mine. I honestly believe that is case. I have explained multiple times on this thread already that what happened before will never happen again. I know my wife, and the pain of this situation hasn’t been easy on her in the slightest. We are going to back to marriage counseling, and have benefited from spending more time together since the pregnancy. However, I will consider speaking to my lawyer. If only to be informed on my legal rights in this matter.
 
I think most of the responses here are insensitive actually, they are purely sympathetic to the adulterous wife and the child that is not his. As a Catholic I don’t agree with abortion, but outside of making sure that does not happen, I don’t think the husband has any duty towards the child at all. Someone needs to stick up for the husband and let him know he has other options. People are giving him all of this advice that could potentially destroy him. I haven’t seen any racial jokes myself here, I only made the comment that the race will only a be a factor that compounds the pain since it will be obvious the child is not his.

I am being sensitive, to the person who was wronged and the one who is asking for advice.
he is not obligated to stick with the situation and it could very easily get much worse.

You can most certainly forgive someone but chose to move on with your life, there is no requirement in forgiveness to dedicate your life to them.
@holy face, I appreciate your concerns and understand that you’re only looking out for my best interests, but I’ve certainly felt no insensitivity from the general responses I’ve received. Most here have actually been very helpful. I ask that you please not presume to know the intricacies of my marriage and exactly what’s going on in our lives. To say that my wife will simply “walk all over me” is insensitive and somewhat insulting. It’s hard enough to deal with this situation without someone attacking the character of my wife and I. Again, I do appreciate your intent, I just ask that you understand where I’m coming from.
 
Thank you for your support, @lily22. My pastor has also referred me to St. Joseph, and I keep him in mind daily.
 
Thomas: A number of posters have said it is important to track down the biological father. May I offer yet another differing opinion?

Your wife became pregnant due to a (sorry for the slang) “one-night stand”. For you two to spend a lot of time to track down a man who may likely be totally shocked and disappointed that this ever happened seems to be, possibly, a waste of energy. With all that you are going through, how much energy to you have to spare? Your wife’s guilt feelings would be dredged up all over again. I could almost guarantee that the biological father is not going to respond with a whole bunch of loving, financial, or emotional support. He’s going to be wishing you two are just a figment of his imagination and would quietly go away. He may a family of his own to deal with, or even multiple families.

You may think its necessary to track him down “for the medical history” or some such, but realize that many, many people did not have their family tree and medical histories in their lifetimes and they got along OK. And if you are think that the bio-dad has “rights” that need to be dealt with, you are overthinking this.

Don’t mean to be discouraging…just hoping you are concentrating on the more important issues: you and your wife’s relationship healing, her maternal health, and general adjustment to becoming parents.
 
Thomas: A number of posters have said it is important to track down the biological father. May I offer yet another differing opinion?

Your wife became pregnant due to a (sorry for the slang) “one-night stand”. For you two to spend a lot of time to track down a man who may likely be totally shocked and disappointed that this ever happened seems to be, possibly, a waste of energy. With all that you are going through, how much energy to you have to spare? Your wife’s guilt feelings would be dredged up all over again. I could almost guarantee that the biological father is not going to respond with a whole bunch of loving, financial, or emotional support. He’s going to be wishing you two are just a figment of his imagination and would quietly go away. He may a family of his own to deal with, or even multiple families.

You may think its necessary to track him down “for the medical history” or some such, but realize that many, many people did not have their family tree and medical histories in their lifetimes and they got along OK. And if you are think that the bio-dad has “rights” that need to be dealt with, you are overthinking this.

Don’t mean to be discouraging…just hoping you are concentrating on the more important issues: you and your wife’s relationship healing, her maternal health, and general adjustment to becoming parents.
I agree with this. I don’t think they owe the one-night-stand man anything at all. The OP is going to be the child’s father, and even the law presumes that he is. Tracking down the guy helps absolutely no one–not the child, not the OP, and not his wife. I don’t believe there is any moral duty toward this man.
 
Thank you for your enthusiastic optimism, Liny. I came to this site to ask for help in my time of need. If I am open about my problems, it is only because I trust everyone here to talk about them. I don’t have the luxury of friends, but I do plan on telling my parents this weekend. I believe I’ll have to break the truth (or as much of it as I can) to them as delicately as possible. @SpidersfromMars has suggested that I should tell them we were separated when the affair happened. That isn’t a bad suggestion, and not too far off from the truth either.

As for the child’s gender, my wife has always wanted a daughter, while I often wanted a son. No matter what the gender, I’m sure we will love the child as our own.
Your welcome! I am in the same boat as you, I don’t have friends either… I will be your friend 🙂 we can be “friends of the friendless” (from an episode of I Love Lucy) 😃
 
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