Can Mary be Sinless and Intercede for you?

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How would you know if Christ Himself appeared to you since you have never met Him in the flesh?
Trust me, I would know. I have known Him all my life. He’s not a stranger to me. I didn’t have to “find” Him. 😃 Aside from that… try reading the original question…just one more time…and see if you can figure out what I asked. Then try to answer it plainly and simply. Are you capable of doing that?
Uh-huh…but you got the point…😉
 
How would you know if Christ Himself appeared to you since you have never met Him in the flesh?
Those of us who are Catholic or Orthodox meet Him in the flesh every Sunday.

Okay, well it’s a sad day when Gamera is the voice of reason, but wasn’t this thread supposed to be about Marian intercession and sinlessness, not sola scriptura and private interpretation?

And, just out of curiosity, can I ask where the notion came from that justasking4 is more than one person? Am I out of the loop or something? Justasking4, is that true or untrue?
 
Those of us who are Catholic or Orthodox meet Him in the flesh every Sunday.
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Okay, well it’s a sad day when Gamera is the voice of reason, but wasn’t this thread supposed to be about Marian intercession and sinlessness, not sola scriptura and private interpretation?
I probably have to take the hit on that one… I asked a question in response to something justasking4 said…and it seemed to derail at that point. Sorry!:o
And, just out of curiosity, can I ask where the notion came from that justasking4 is more than one person? Am I out of the loop or something? Justasking4, is that true or untrue?
Its a question that has been asked about several posters here… I think its just one person with way too much time on their hands.
 
RobHom;4346146]So then you are “assuming” that you “know” the correct interpretation?
The way to determine this would be to apply good study methods i.e. context, word meanings, passage comparisons etc. These things would help to determine the best interpretation.
Asking me a question won’t help you.
Sure it will. I value your (name removed by moderator)ut and knowledge…👍
 
Originally Posted by justasking4 View Post
How would you know if Christ Himself appeared to you since you have never met Him in the flesh?

jmcrae
The clouds of adoring Angels might be one give-away. 😉
What if there are no angels?
 
The way to determine this would be to apply good study methods i.e. context, word meanings, passage comparisons etc. These things would help to determine the best interpretation.
Where I have a problem with this…is that many have moved away from the correct contexts of passages of scriptures…often by taken snippets out of sentences and passages to use them often times in ways that are way out of context. I also think that the word “interpretation” is bandied about and used a little too loosely, and so much so that it has almost become trite. I prefer to think that one “derives a meaning” from scriptures. Plus too many changes have been made to the Bible over the years and the changes in the languages, even from the formal to the vernacular that “meanings” of word groups are modified or changed…so actual “interpretation” is virtually impossible. Additionally…having learned four languages…2 fluently, and 2 semi-fluently I am well aware of the pitfalls of translation from one language to another. Couple that with the fact that virtually no-one alive today has any working knowledge of the original languages…or rather the actual nuances of those languages…or dialectic nuances…or colloquialisms…so subsequent “translations”…may or may not be truly accurate and true to the originals.
Sure it will. I value your (name removed by moderator)ut and knowledge…👍
😃 If you’re not pulling my leg…I’ll take that as a compliment! 😊
 
How would you know unless you also are “PRIVATELY INTERPRETATING”. :eek:
I am obedient to Christ’s Church authority. You are not. You have taken a book which must be used in context of the authority to interpret it, and have warped it to make your own religion…a savior who agrees with you.

Instead of asking innumerable questions, how about answering even one…
 
Okay, well it’s a sad day when Gamera is the voice of reason, but wasn’t this thread supposed to be about Marian intercession and sinlessness, not sola scriptura and private interpretation?
You are absolutely right. Unfortunately, SS is the elephant in the Protestant living room. It explains their blindness and confusion regarding so many aspects of our Lord.
 
po18guy;4346538]
Originally Posted by justasking4
How would you know unless you also are “PRIVATELY INTERPRETATING”.
po18guy
I am obedient to Christ’s Church authority.
Do you claim to know and understand what your church teaches perfectly? Do you claim to obey perfectly?
You are not. You have taken a book which must be used in context of the authority to interpret it, and have warped it to make your own religion…a savior who agrees with you.
Instead of asking innumerable questions, how about answering even one…
i answer many questions. 👍
 
Do you claim to know and understand what your church teaches perfectly? Do you claim to obey perfectly?
Neither. Conversion is a process and takes one’s lifetime. That’s why Paul admonished us to “work out your salvation with fear and trembling”. We have reconciliation for those times that we disobey, and scripture study and mass readings to enlighten us to the proper interpretation of scripture.
i answer many questions. 👍
To your own satisfaction, I assure you.
 
Mark 10:18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.

Is Mary, god? No. she’s a mortal. So how can she be good or sinless when Jesus says ONLY GOD IS GOOD?

A lot of Catholics do not understand why, since Mary can give birth to Jesus how could she have sin? And since Jesus is God, therefore Mary must be the mother of God.

The Bible clearly states, where God says ‘I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end’. This means that God does NOT have ANYBODY else before Him. IN OTHER WORDS, He does NOT have parents. So, how can Mary be God’s mother?

Well, Mary did indeed give birth to Jesus. But Jesus is BOTH Man & God. The fleshly body of Jesus is Man, the Spirit that is in Him is God. Mary was used as a vessel to give birth to the FLESH that God used while He was on earth. There is no way that a mortal being can give birth to the immortal God.

John 3:6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.

Insisting that God was born by Mary is B-L-A-S-P-H-E-M-Y.

Let’s not also forget that Mary called herself a slave/servant of God, and she too prayed feverishly with the other disciples after Christ’s resurrection for the coming Holy Spirit. She Did Not pray For the others, but WITH the others. In other words, she is just another sinner like you and me. At the 1st miracle of water to wine at the wedding in Capernaum (John 2) when she informed Jesus that the wine had ran out, Jesus replied her bluntly ‘what has this concern of yours to do with me, woman’? ‘My hour has not yet come’.

This incident shows clearly that Mary has no involvement with the works of God, neither does she know what God has in store. She is a humble and obedient servant of God.

Job 25:4 How then can a man be righteous before God? How can one born of woman be pure?

Indeed, if Jesus was born of woman, He would be impure. But Jesus is NOT born of woman!

For Jesus also said ‘Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.’

If Jesus was also born of woman, would He not even be lesser than John the Baptist?

Jesus said ‘I am the Truth, the Way and the Life. No man goes to the Father except through me’.

Now, do you still need to go through Mary??? No, you obviously don’t.

Mary had sin in her just like you and me, BUT she was highly regarded enough to be chosen by God as His earthly mother while He abided on earth. Mary cannot intercede for you just like nobody can intercede for you. That is why Jesus is both the judge & mediator.

Galatians 3:20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

Yes, for God mediates for us unto Himself through Jesus Christ.

Jesus, for there is no other name under heaven given to people by which we must be saved (Acts 4:12). Not the Pope, not Peter and certainly not Mary.

Catholics, read the Bible for yourself before its too late.

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Actually, Christian faith is blasphemous 🙂 Jesus acted blasphemously by presuming to forgive sins. He acted blasphemously by being born as man - this breaks the Commandments.​

We are just more consistently blasphemous than you. 🙂

You *are *aware that Jesus is
  • accursed
  • sin
  • unclean
    & that we are:
  • the Righteousness of God
    You should be - it’s in St. Paul. 🙂
BTW, in the OT: “My Glory I will not give to another” - so Jesus cannot have the Glory of the Father; despite St. John’s assertions to the contrary. As for Jesus’ being a priest - the Levitical priesthood is explicitly said to be “for ever”, & Jesus was not of the tribe of Levi. So according to the OT, what does that make Him ?

The truth is, that the NT is unBiblical - nowhere is there the tiniest hint that the OT needs to be added to.
 

Actually, Christian faith is blasphemous 🙂 Jesus acted blasphemously by presuming to forgive sins. He acted blasphemously by being born as man - this breaks the Commandments.​

We are just more consistently blasphemous than you. 🙂

You *are *aware that Jesus is
  • accursed
  • sin
  • unclean
    & that we are:
  • the Righteousness of God
    You should be - it’s in St. Paul. 🙂
BTW, in the OT: “My Glory I will not give to another” - so Jesus cannot have the Glory of the Father; despite St. John’s assertions to the contrary. As for Jesus’ being a priest - the Levitical priesthood is explicitly said to be “for ever”, & Jesus was not of the tribe of Levi. So according to the OT, what does that make Him ?

The truth is, that the NT is unBiblical - nowhere is there the tiniest hint that the OT needs to be added to.
Are you saying you don’t believe in the NT?
 
You are absolutely right. Unfortunately, SS is the elephant in the Protestant living room. It explains their blindness and confusion regarding so many aspects of our Lord.
Hi! po18guy, :tiphat:

WOW!!! what insight!. As you said It explains everything,:doh2: except JustAsking4! :yup: Now they are only joking and playing.:bounce: But it is right on target with the ones that are serious here.👍 It might even apply to Reformed.
What with the planks in their eyes ,and the SS elephants in their living room they really are handicaped aren’t they?:bighanky:

Lets pray for them::signofcross:

Hail Mary, Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed are thou among women
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus!
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
Pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
AMEN!:crossrc:
 
Hi! po18guy, :tiphat:

WOW!!! what insight!. As you said It explains everything,:doh2: except JustAsking4! :yup: Now they are only joking and playing.:bounce: But it is right on target with the ones that are serious here.👍 It might even apply to Reformed.
What with the planks in their eyes ,and the SS elephants in their living room they really are handicaped aren’t they?:bighanky:

Lets pray for them::signofcross:

Hail Mary, Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed are thou among women
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus!
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
Pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
AMEN!:crossrc:
“Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help, or sought your intercession was left unaided. Inspired by this confidence I fly unto you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To you do I come; before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in your mercy hear and answer me. Amen”
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Are you saying you don’t believe in the NT?
WOW,

Hi justasking4,:tiphat:

Are you guys believing? I never thought I would say this JA4, however I think we have found someone that is stranger than all of you guys! :hmmm: Of course I say that with all christian kindness and love! :love:
Gottle of Geer thinks the NT is a bad thing? :eek: That defies logic doesn’t it? :confused: Wait, don’t try to answer that I don’t have time to explain logic to you.
Anyway. It looks like we all have things to learn from Gottle of Geer. :whacky: I am thinking he Grought an entire six pack, and drank it!
I’ll am boing over to the Secret Catholic meeting, After that I will return to help you with him.

Now remember to Ge Nice! :tsktsk: Gottle of Geer Geing new here can teach us a lot! :whistle:

God Gless!
 
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[SIGN]“Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help, or sought your intercession was left unaided. Inspired by this confidence I fly unto you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To you do I come; before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in your mercy hear and answer me. Amen”[/SIGN]

AMEN!

JustAsking4, My sweetheart :flowers: …SIGH, If I wasn’t married! WINK!!! :love: :whackadoo: 🎉 :yyeess: :love:

God Bless
 

Actually, Christian faith is blasphemous 🙂 Jesus acted blasphemously by presuming to forgive sins. He acted blasphemously by being born as man - this breaks the Commandments. …​

We are just more consistently blasphemous than you.
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blasphemously
adverb blasphemously
In a manner showing a lack of piety or respect for the sacred. In a blasphemous manner. In manner resembling blasphemy.


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Hi Gottle of Geer,
What happened to your ventriloquist buddy? Yea, I know the joke! Thank you for coming to this Thread!

May our Heavenly Father use you and your testimony as a perfect example of why people should never read the Bible without the guidance of the RCC. But most of all, May God have mercy on your soul, I ask this through His son Jesus Christ who lives and riegns with Him and The Holy Spirit, One God forever and ever AMEN!
 
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