Apart from babies and children on planet earth. That would not be loving. Standard.
In the UK many girls have never been told abortion is wrong - which gives some idea of the amount of moral education in this country.
I find that hard to believe. Education can come from many different avenues. Isn’t there any pro-life activity. Can they see the television news? Aren’t any people against abortion? Haven’t they heard anyone talk against abortion?
Maybe in the jungles of Brazil or Africa…they wouldn’t know about abortion being wrong…but in England???
Pregnant schoolgirls are more concerned about the consequences than anything else. The UK has the highest teenage birth and abortion rates in Western Europe -** funded by the NHS**. Pro-lifers are regarded as fanatics…
You are describing the ways that Satan works.
It depends where people look for their education. If, they are even interested in being educated. Not every human being, especially youngsters, unless given explicitly moral and ethical education - at home and at school - are open, or even aware of many good things around them. And they don’t even necessarily know what is or isn’t good for them in the first place. Many people are stuck where they are. Many people dream of being someone else, somewhere else, and don’t realise that there is anything different out there. That they’re life is even vaulable. We can, IMO, never, forget how difficult it can be to be a teenager growing up and how especially hard it is for those who are brought up in dreadful and often hostile environments. The attitude to care, comes into the equation. If people grow up thinking the world owes them something then unfortunately this can hinder not only their own lives but in turn produce negative consequences in the things in life that come their way.
What is your point? Are you making up scenarios in which your opinion is that culpability for a mortal sin is diminished?
No. On the contrary, the Church teaches us to be merciful as our Creator is merciful with us. It is precisely a lack of mercy that allows such spirals of decay to happen in society. Belief is more than an attitude in the mind it is about having a forgiving heart and leaving our Creator to make the judgements, as if any human could know what our Creator thinks. The rules in the Church are there for us to guide our own lives, not so we can go spreading our negativity about by making wild, sweeping statements about the state of other people’s souls whom you don’t know, which is what we do when we bunch people up together under labels of ‘mortal sinners’, when not having walked in their shoes; however, fortunately, our Lord is with people, and not only with them when they are in a state of grace, but helping them in the rough times too. Even if they don’t always listen to Him.
Our Creator treats us with Divine Mercy. Such mercy is impossible for creatures. Please tell me where the Church teaches us to be merciful in a divine way? You can’t.
Indeed. They love children in Africa and South America.
Who mentioned being merciful in a divine way?
No, I think from the sounds of your posts you are putting yourself up on a pedastal.
I did not know that ‘judge teenagers’ and ‘condemn mankind’ was in the Commandments or beattitutes.
It depends who you are talking about. I think there are such an acts that are mortally sinful. I can only speak for myself if I commit such an act, and my conscience will allow me to know if I could do with confessing, however, if I think I know, our Creator knows better - maybe I was right to go maybe there were other factors involved. But another person’s relationship with our Creator is not between me and the conscience police.
There are certain factors which can lessen the sin to less than mortal. Fortunately I don’t live in a theocracy and so hope our Creator will find a way to all people’s hearts in ways other than fear so that they do not die in mortal sin. I expect many do die in such a state: judge and you will be judged.
Then you haven’t read St. Paul.
To have to love one’s neighbour, is a real dig in the ribs for some, isn’t it?
We all know what sins constitute grave matter.
Points made.
That point was made by all.
Point made already.
Point made already.
Points implied.
Most people know when something is wrong because we have moral law in us. This is not straightforward yet certainly not a let off.
Hence, my point about those who are in receipt of fuller knowledge and sinning anyway, being even worse off than before!
I think there is the danger that we can blame everything on satan but I do think that satan causes and inspires a lot of nasty stuff in society. But to blame everything on him only serves to excuse ourselves. While I think we have to be kind to others, and merciful, and always ready to excuse, make excuses for others even, we also have to be aware of satan, put on the armour of salvation, get involved in spiritual warfare, and be always on our guard. Sin is real but emphasis is key. I think we are on the same page: to warn of the dangers but not play the accuser; be ready to educate, protect and not cast the first stone; to know sin is real but choose to look at the Cross?
“But no one is deemed to be ignorant of the principles of the moral law, which are written in the conscience of every man.”
Yes, you did, okay, but also:
OK, OK, you win …I’m out!
