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stmichael, nobody here is denying these six articles. As has already been pointed out, the mode of the Holy Spirit’s presence is different. To quote myself: These are two different ways in which He is present: sustaining in existence and sanctifying the soul brought by grace from servanthood as a creature to sonship as a new creation in Christ.This is from JPII:
According to the “canons” added to this doctrinal text, the First Vatican Council confirmed the following truths:
Number 4 is what will answer our question here. The Divine does not emanate from creation including angels. That is why Baptism is necessary in order for the Holy Spirit to dwell in the soul. Only through the sacraments are we made like God because it is the Trinity who comes to dwell within us. Apart from those graces, we’d be ourselves…not God and He certainly would not dwell within us. At the same time, article 4 says just because God has revealed Himself doesn’t mean He becomes everything. The idea the Holy Spirit is actually in every soul regardless of baptism (or state of grace) is a heresy. You don’t need to believe me, but you do need to believe Vatican I and John Paul II.
- The one, true God is Creator and Lord “of visible and invisible things” (DS 3021).
- It is contrary to faith to affirm that only matter exists (materialism) (DS 3022).
- It is contrary to faith to assert that God is essentially identified with the world (pantheism) (DS 3023).
- It is contrary to faith to maintain that creatures, even spiritual ones, are an emanation of the divine substance, or to affirm that the divine Being by its manifestation or evolution becomes everything (DS 3024).
- Also contrary to faith is the idea that God is the universal or indefinite being which in becoming determinate constitutes the universe divided into genera, species and individuals (DS 3024).
- It is likewise contrary to faith to deny that the world and all things contained in it, whether spiritual or material, in their entire substance have been created by God out of nothing (DS 3025).
You erroneously insist that the latter is the only way He is present in the soul and deny His omnipresence. In denying His omnipresence (since He is God the Holy Spirit and where One Person Is all Persons are) you deny an essential de fide doctrine of the Faith, making of the Holy Spirit an adjunct of God since He can only get to work at Baptism, not God the Holy Spirit Who with the Father and the Son, the One God, sustains all that has come into being by His presence to and in it (you cannot seem to grasp that God’s being in creation is not an assertion of pantheism). I’m afraid it is you in your misunderstanding who is making of Him essentially a mere emanation, not a Divine Person.