Cardinal Rodriguez Maradiaga rips US critics of Pope's forthcoming encyclical [CC]

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Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga blasted American critics of the environmental views of Pope Francis during a May 12 press conference in Rome.Cardinal Rodriguez, the president of …

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He makes a good point, since none of us have read the upcoming encyclical yet.
 
christofirst said:
He makes a good point, since none of us have read the upcoming encyclical yet.
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And of course, neither has the Cardinal. While some are pre-emptively denigrating the encyclical yet to be written, he is pre-emptively praising. And tosses in a blast at capitalism in the process.
 
JimG said:
And of course, neither has the Cardinal. While some are pre-emptively denigrating the encyclical yet to be written, he is pre-emptively praising. And tosses in a blast at capitalism in the process.
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He’s doing worse than that. He’s accusing those who disagree with global warming claims of malice. Regardless of what the encyclical says, his accusation will be remembered.
 
JimG said:
And of course, neither has the Cardinal. While some are pre-emptively denigrating the encyclical yet to be written, he is pre-emptively praising. And tosses in a blast at capitalism in the process.
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I think the media is the one doing that and not so much the Cardinal. After reading several different takes on this, it seems to me that the jab was at a particular set of critics and not capitalism in general. He is saying to wait and criticize what is actually in it and not what one thinks might be there. I don’t see that he praising it. Only that he waits with hope. That’s not exactly praise.
 
Bubba_Switzler said:
He’s doing worse than that. He’s accusing those who disagree with global warming claims of malice.
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When I read comments like the one the cardinal made here, I am simply stunned. How can a cardinal make such an uncharitable accusation? If the rest of us are forbidden to make rash judgments, to impugn the integrity of others, does that prohibition not extend to him as well? In fact isn’t his obligation to refrain from such offensive remarks even greater than ours? It is truly painful to see such comments from members of the clergy, and especially so to see them come from those at the very pinnacle of the church hierarchy. This kind of attack would in all likelihood receive at least a warning from the moderators on this forum, and if it is inappropriate for us here how much more inappropriate is it for him?

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Ender said:
When I read comments like the one the cardinal made here, I am simply stunned. How can a cardinal make such an uncharitable accusation? If the rest of us are forbidden to make rash judgments, to impugn the integrity of others, does that prohibition not extend to him as well? In fact isn’t his obligation to refrain from such offensive remarks even greater than ours? It is truly painful to see such comments from members of the clergy, and especially so to see them come from those at the very pinnacle of the church hierarchy. This kind of attack would in all likelihood receive at least a warning from the moderators on this forum, and if it is inappropriate for us here how much more inappropriate is it for him?

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I agree with you. Doesn’t the cardinal think it should be fair for both sides to be heard? Why does he think the skeptics are the ones wanting to line their pockets? Because of this accusation I wonder if he favors a certain agenda.
 
Ender said:
When I read comments like the one the cardinal made here, I am simply stunned. How can a cardinal make such an uncharitable accusation? If the rest of us are forbidden to make rash judgments, to impugn the integrity of others, does that prohibition not extend to him as well? In fact isn’t his obligation to refrain from such offensive remarks even greater than ours? It is truly painful to see such comments from members of the clergy, and especially so to see them come from those at the very pinnacle of the church hierarchy. This kind of attack would in all likelihood receive at least a warning from the moderators on this forum, and if it is inappropriate for us here how much more inappropriate is it for him?

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I hear you. What would the good Cardinal have to say about Professor Richard Parncutt, Professor at the University of Graz, Austria who called for the death penalty for global warming deniers? I don’t know about the rest of you here, but I don’t feel comfortable with my church leaders cozying up with such fruitcakes!

Peace, Mark
 
Mark121359 said:
I hear you. What would the good Cardinal have to say about Professor Richard Parncutt, Professor at the University of Graz, Austria who called for the death penalty for global warming deniers? I don’t know about the rest of you here, but I don’t feel comfortable with my church leaders cozying up with such fruitcakes!

Peace, Mark
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Not mentioning him is “cozying up”?
 
Catholic_Press said:
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This is the same guy who said you can’t be a Catholic and a Libertarian. His speech on the subject at the Catholic University of America was uncharitable and ignorant at best. The best synopsis is here.

lewrockwell.com/2014/06/thomas-woods/takedown-of-a-left-wing-cardinal/

I respectfully disagree with the Cardinal’s tone towards people of different opinions in PRUDENTIAL matters, and his intellectual arguments.
 
Dawnia said:
I think the media is the one doing that and not so much the Cardinal. After reading several different takes on this, it seems to me that the jab was at a particular set of critics and not capitalism in general. He is saying to wait and criticize what is actually in it and not what one thinks might be there. I don’t see that he praising it. Only that he waits with hope. That’s not exactly praise.
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What he said was much stronger than “wait and see”.
“The ideology surrounding environmental issues is too tied to a capitalism that doesn’t want to stop ruining the environment because they don’t want to give up their profits,” said the Honduran cardinal.
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agnes_therese said:
Not mentioning him is “cozying up”?
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When I read a quote such as this; *“The ideology surrounding environmental issues is too tied to a capitalism that doesn’t want to stop ruining the environment because they don’t want to give up their profits,” * it sounds a lot like something Al Gore, Leonardo DiCaprio or a Professor Richard Parncutt might say not a Roman Catholic Cardinal. So yes, I stick to my “cozying up” statement.
Peace, Mark***
 
SWolf said:
What he said was much stronger than “wait and see”.
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That was a single quote pulled out of context. He was criticizing a particular set of critics, not capitalism in general. 🤷 Context matters.
 
Dawnia said:
That was a single quote pulled out of context. He was criticizing a particular set of critics, not capitalism in general. 🤷 Context matters.
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Why don’t you provide the context that justifies the quote.

Even if he were merely criticizing the critics with an overly broad brush, the criticism is still uncharitable in the extreme. Saying that he only was attacking specific critics won’t justify the attack.
 
Dawnia said:
That was a single quote pulled out of context. He was criticizing a particular set of critics, not capitalism in general. 🤷 Context matters.
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Those types of quotes are par for the course in his criticisms of the free market, and how he approaches the viewpoints of free-market defenders. This is not an isolated incident out of context.
 
Mark121359 said:
When I read a quote such as this; *“The ideology surrounding environmental issues is too tied to a capitalism that doesn’t want to stop ruining the environment because they don’t want to give up their profits,” * it sounds a lot like something Al Gore, Leonardo DiCaprio or a Professor Richard Parncutt might say not a Roman Catholic Cardinal. So yes, I stick to my “cozying up” statement.
Peace, Mark***
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I agreed with your cozying up statement as well.
 
SWolf said:
This is the same guy who said you can’t be a Catholic and a Libertarian. His speech on the subject at the Catholic University of America was uncharitable and ignorant at best. The best synopsis is here.

lewrockwell.com/2014/06/thomas-woods/takedown-of-a-left-wing-cardinal/

I respectfully disagree with the Cardinal’s tone towards people of different opinions in PRUDENTIAL matters, and his intellectual arguments.
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Why bother with a summery when you can watch the entire speech on Youtube?

It’s interesting to listen to, even if you don’t agree with him.
 
Bubba_Switzler said:
Why don’t you provide the context that justifies the quote.

Even if he were merely criticizing the critics with an overly broad brush, the criticism is still uncharitable in the extreme. Saying that he only was attacking specific critics won’t justify the attack.
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😃 What is your justification for attacking him without knowing more than just a sound bite?
 
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