Catholic Church called "Evil Incarnate" on Irish Radio

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“The Church is the cause of the holiness of its members; its holiness is not measured by their response.” – Frank Sheed
 
We are writing on this foum about what men have done ,Can you tell where it is writen that the hierarchy could have Catholics burnt at the stake for reading the bible in English
 
I sould have said could and did have Catholics burnt at the stake
 
michaelmac said:
We have allready talked about them on this web site ,So can you tell me why Nobody can veiw the archives of these dates 1939 1945
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It takes some years before the archives can be officialy opened for certain dates. It was only recently that those of the reign of Venerable Pius XII were opened. Also, this can be explained by the fact that the city of Rome had become a war-zone in World War II and many documents and archives were transfered to safer locations.
 
It is not very long ago that they opened the archives up to 1939 , so if they can do that they can open them all , Plus the war has been over 62 years , What excuse will be used next
 
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michaelmac said:
It is not very long ago that they opened the archives up to 1939 , so if they can do that they can open them all , Plus the war has been over 62 years , What excuse will be used next
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If you type "Vatican secret archives"into your search engine and then do a search for 1939-1945,you should find what you are looking for.
On the other hand,if you are really just wanting to read about
Pius XII and The Holocaust,then you will find books available from Amazon.co.uk
 
How disgusting. The Catholic Church is certainly not evil incarnate! :mad: The Catholic Church is the Truth and is the best organization on this earth!

P.S. I apologize for my earlier comments in this thread.
 
Can any one prove the church is not Evil Incarnate , And the argument Jesus started the church is not a valid argument , The reason for this is because one simple fact, The HIREARCHY WORLD WIDE AND THE LAITY ARE DENYING THERE WAS EVER A COVER UP
 
michaelmac said:
Can any one prove the church is not Evil Incarnate , And the argument Jesus started the church is not a valid argument , The reason for this is because one simple fact, The HIREARCHY WORLD WIDE AND THE LAITY ARE DENYING THERE WAS EVER A COVER UP
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Is that you Colm?
 
Fergal I didn’t hear the interview, and was never a fan of Dave Fanning.

I could never stand him droning along on the radio, so don’t know if I’ll bother listening to him this time either, when he presents his Rock show I always turn him off, he talks in the one key and for me is decidedly boring.

But I’ll send a protest just the same, where exactly on that page is the show ?
 
michaelmac said:
Can any one prove the church is not Evil Incarnate , And the argument Jesus started the church is not a valid argument , The reason for this is because one simple fact, The HIREARCHY WORLD WIDE AND THE LAITY ARE DENYING THERE WAS EVER A COVER UP
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michaelmac,

Did you know that using all capital letters is equivalent to YELLING!!!

Man, chill out else you’ll have a stroke.

I can prove absolutely that the Church is not evil incarnate…just look at the teachings of Jesus Christ…the only way the Church can be evil is if Jesus was evil. Do you think Jesus is evil?

Iowa Mike
 
michaelmac said:
Can any one prove the church is not Evil Incarnate , And the argument Jesus started the church is not a valid argument , The reason for this is because one simple fact, The HIREARCHY WORLD WIDE AND THE LAITY ARE DENYING THERE WAS EVER A COVER UP
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You would make a rabid fundamentalist street preacher proud.

Of course there was a massive world-wide cover up! This of course was directed by the Freemasons, and their public front the Jesuits, as part of their plan to infiltrate all the governments of the world in an attempt to subdue the human race for their alien overlords. And who is the mastermind behind this and the ultra-secret leader of the Freemasons? None other then the Prince of Wales!
 
michaelmac said:
Jock , One of my friends was a Catholic from Scotland ,Only her treatment by the church has made very anti Catholic ,She wants a true sorry for what happened to her and her siblings , But the hierarchy are refusing to say a meaningful sorry , The same in Ireland , One of my friends from Ireland has said pubicly he would like to kill every nun of the sisters of Mercy ,What have they done to bring out such hatered in people , yours michael
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Well I must have been hearing things at Mass a few years ago when the Bishops letter of apology was read out at every Mass, maybe I dreamt it.
nkelly said:
It’s one thing to defend a Church that stands up for the truth in the face of attacks from a corrupt/securlar world. It’s quite another to defend a Church that allows the most abominable abuse of innocent children to continue. The perpetrators and their superiors are destroying the Church!

God bless,
Noel.
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Oh please drop the stone, unless of-course you have no sin.

Hello, the Church will not be destroyed, because it was started from the Divine, it will suffer just like Christ, but it will never fall.

We have Christs word and thats good enough for me.
 
Caesar said:
You would make a rabid fundamentalist street preacher proud.

Of course there was a massive world-wide cover up! This of course was directed by the Freemasons, and their public front the Jesuits, as part of their plan to infiltrate all the governments of the world in an attempt to subdue the human race for their alien overlords. And who is the mastermind behind this and the ultra-secret leader of the Freemasons? None other then the Prince of Wales!
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Come-on…let’s all play nice…

Iowa Mike
 
Caesar said:
You would make a rabid fundamentalist street preacher proud.

Of course there was a massive world-wide cover up! This of course was directed by the Freemasons, and their public front the Jesuits, as part of their plan to infiltrate all the governments of the world in an attempt to subdue the human race for their alien overlords. And who is the mastermind behind this and the ultra-secret leader of the Freemasons? None other then the Prince of Wales!
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I attended a jesuit run school,St.Aloysius College,Glasgow,
Scotland.According to you,they were a front for the Freemasons.
You don’t know what you are talking about.
 
burnside said:
I attended a jesuit run school,St.Aloysius College,Glasgow,
Scotland.According to you,they were a front for the Freemasons.
You don’t know what you are talking about.
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And you don’t know ironic humor when it bites you in the backside. Don’t they teach English in College anymore?
 
Iowa_Mike said:
I absolutely condemn, in the strongest terms possible, any priest, bishop or cardinal that had any part in covering up or hiding the atrocious acts.

However, I find it absolutely astounding that people are holding God’s “Church” responsible for the deeds of sinful men. The “Church” did not do these things, weak and sinful men did. Over the millenniums the Church has weathered all kinds of adversity including bad bishops, bad popes, bad priests, bad nuns, and heretics, persecution etc. etc., and guess what? It is still standing! Jesus said he would be with us (the Church) until the end of time and I believe him.

The “Church” always comes through these problems stronger because She has not changed; Her teachings, traditions, doctrines and dogmas remain the same.

Holding the Church responsible for this situation is like throwing the ‘baby out with the bathwater’. No organization or government on the planet could remain standing if held responsible for the evil deeds of a few of its members?
I love our church as much as the next person…and i believe the church will indeed outlast us all ; however we should never underestimate the power of an angry populace who have suddenly woken up to the fact that the law courts can take on the church…and win hands down. The church itself is to blame for any cover-ups and we should all make sure that NOTHING , BUT NOTHING like this is ever allowed to stain our church again. Our priest often tells us that WE ARE THE CHURCH and all religious must therefore realise that they are REPRESENTING CHRIST on our behalf.

Iowa Mike
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