Catholic church lays down dress code

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Catholic church lays down dress code

Manila: The Archdiocese of Manila has issued a dress code that calls on the faithful to present themselves in formal and more conservative attire when attending mass, a local paper said.
In a circular sent to parish priests on Sunday, Father Godwin Tatlonghari, assistant minister of the archdiocese’s Ministry of Liturgical Affairs (MLA), said a new dress code was being imposed following complaints from worshippers that the slack dress sense of some was proving to be disturbing, the Star said.

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I absolutely applaud this decree.

When you look at the way some people dress —like they just finished cleaning out the garage, or dragged something from the bottom of the hamper, not to mention wearing underwear on the outside—well, a little decorum would be welcomed.
 
It seems that I notice shorts and flip flops in church and I would tolerate this if it were 95:D or hotter. Am I wrong?
 
FreeAmerican said:
It seems that I notice shorts and flip flops in church and I would tolerate this if it were 95:D or hotter. Am I wrong?
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When it comes to heat and humidity, most of the Philippines score pretty darn high. I suppose one answer to the question is that the Philippine bishops are sticking to their dress code.

Since this thread is two years old, I was curious about how the dress code was received. An article from two months ago indicates that the Philippine Bishops conference, not just the Archdiocese of Manila, is now backing the dress code. On the other hand, it seems that many Filipinos aren’t in compliance, but perhaps some of our CAF members in the Philippines can give more information.
philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=458424
 
If a dress code needs to be enforced in the summer, The churches may have to set the air conditioning to 71 or lower. Showing less skin, which may discourage tank tops, tube tops, halter tops if you know what I mean.🙂
 
FreeAmerican said:
It seems that I notice shorts and flip flops in church and I would tolerate this if it were 95:D or hotter. Am I wrong?
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FIrst of all what is a dress code…some kind of rules I guess! I recall some evil beings came into our school system.one man posing as a chaplain…he called this new program…Discovery…and one of the first things to go was the dress code! Also other destructive tricks to ruin the school and kids were no forced clean up after lunch at the school cafe…no forced study hall…one could go to any one they wished or just roam the halls,and a weakening of the marking system!!! Well guess what?the teens started looking like slobs and tramps,the cafe and its unpicked up used food had to be closed due to the dept. of health,and false fire alarms etc made the place hardly a schoo at all!..and so we circulated a petition and got the principal fired and brought some sanity back …I still have my letter to the school paper defending a dress code for a school is serious business…as is a church…is it not Gods house for heavens sake…would the cracks we see by sensitive folk ,would they go and meet a hollyweird star etc dressed for the beach…or is only GOd to be insulted…dont mess with mother nature the add went…
 
Nino said:
FIrst of all what is a dress code…some kind of rules I guess! I recall some evil beings came into our school system.one man posing as a chaplain…he called this new program…Discovery…and one of the first things to go was the dress code! Also other destructive tricks to ruin the school and kids were no forced clean up after lunch at the school cafe…no forced study hall…one could go to any one they wished or just roam the halls,and a weakening of the marking system!!! Well guess what?the teens started looking like slobs and tramps,the cafe and its unpicked up used food had to be closed due to the dept. of health,and false fire alarms etc made the place hardly a schoo at all!..and so we circulated a petition and got the principal fired and brought some sanity back …I still have my letter to the school paper defending a dress code for a school is serious business…as is a church…is it not Gods house for heavens sake…would the cracks we see by sensitive folk ,would they go and meet a hollyweird star etc dressed for the beach…or is only GOd to be insulted…dont mess with mother nature the add went…
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It’s really a shame when the school kids going to school don’t take pride in their appearance. You have to ask yourself, “What in the world is going on here?” This has gotten out of hand and in my chruch, I’ve seen men in shorts and flip flops, mucle shirts, tank tops, logo attire and anything else that goes. I’ve even seen on occasion young men wear their baseball caps in church now That isn’t right and we should all know that don’t we? Even though women dress better than men and I don’t want to make any comparesans but the young women are just as guilty as the men. They wear the flip flops, shorts and tank tops and tehy even show off the filthy bra straps as well, but they also do the hater tops and dresses, teh strapless dresses, tube tops, and bustiers in church and that goes to far doesn’t it? IT does get offending doesn’t it? wearing denim may not be that bad if it’s decent enough without the holes in the knees but when it exposes the underwear is pretty too much. I can understand the phillpine churches that enforced a dress code and they should and it is their right even when it is hot. I thing society is looking on how how people dress and some or most of it is offensive and it has to stop. Maybe someday people will grow tired of this overexposure of skin and even the grunge look and dress more decent. I don’t any other answers at this time. maybe later. Thank you.
 
Visiting the Son of God in the manger at Bethlehem, the kings dressed like kings while the shepherds dressed like shepherds.
 
It may come to a day where all churches Catholic, prodistant, jewish, or whatever will all have to lay down a dress code and I won’t be surprised if dies happen.

It isn’t wrong to enforce a dress code is it?
 
buffalo said:
Catholic church lays down dress code

Manila: The Archdiocese of Manila has issued a dress code that calls on the faithful to present themselves in formal and more conservative attire when attending mass, a local paper said.
In a circular sent to parish priests on Sunday, Father Godwin Tatlonghari, assistant minister of the archdiocese’s Ministry of Liturgical Affairs (MLA), said a new dress code was being imposed following complaints from worshippers that the slack dress sense of some was proving to be disturbing, the Star said.

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Oh jolly… as if it was anybody’s business what the individual deems good enough for public worship. Of course modesty is a good thing, but that should be practiced apart from public worship anyways… It sounds pretty superficial to me…
 
At an RCIA class last year, a Seminarian and a parishoner (observing the class) brought up their hope of a dress code. They snubbed jeans. Shorts. Sandals.
<-We used to call these snobs “Nickel Millionaires” while I was growing up.

100+ degree weather every day now here in Texas.

At Texas A&M’s Catholic Church on Campus (St. Mary’s), the daily mass has quite a few students ~each day~!!! Every day. I believe God would rather them BE THERE, than to pass by because of their shorts, flip-flops or jeans. Now, the shorts are not short-shorts. They’re usually on men, down to their knees, and with those pockets all over.

That Church is pleasantly filled. Each day.

I “get it” with the lewd and distracting clothing. But modestly—I believe Christ would rather they be there, attending daily Mass, receiving Him in Holy Communion.

Funny thing is, the Seminarian (now a Deacon) dropped back by to assist with a daily mass this last week-in jeans. He appologized to everyone-because he walked in and in front of everyone-heading to the sacristy. Afterwards, in the sacristy, I said, “At least you were here. Who cares? We couldn’t see your street clothes anyway.”

A woman I “know” (don’t really know well-but know by name and to speak to) told me about a month ago, that she tried to get a dress code passed at our Church. She doesn’t want flip-flops worn. I replied: I’d rather have flip flops than hose and enclosed shoes in 100 degree sweaty weather. Who the heck wants to smell feet?

They need to spend more time focusing on Christ-rather than looking down their noses and snubbing the other parishoners.

Our mother taught us to look ahead, and not pay attention to everyone around us while at Mass. I taught this to our daughters too. Even when a child cries out-not to turn around. The mother doesn’t want the baby crying-they don’t need to turn around.

Now I know why Christ didn’t like hypocrites. Just how would these “Nickel Millionaires” react if a homeless person came in and sat in the pew next to them?
 
Another thing this reminds me of-an e-mail that comes around every so often.

Gunmen come into a filled Church and state: Anyone who won’t take a bullet for Christ-leave. Most the people leave. When they’re gone and a few remain, they say something to the pastor like: Now that all the hypocrites are gone, continue…

When I receive this e-mail, I delete it. And, I e-mail back to the sender that this is sad, indeed. Christ is the “Divine Physician,” and those who left are sick and the ones who need Him.

+Peace Be With You.
-Dawn
 
There are a couple of things wrong with the shepherds-and-kings analogy, but the crucial one is this: the shepherds and Magi did not know they would be called into the Divine Presence.

Those of us who attend Mass know we will be going to church. And there are few shepherds, but far too many people who can afford to dress better who think it’s fine to come in a spaghetti-stained t-shirt bearing a rude message.
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
There are a couple of things wrong with the shepherds-and-kings analogy, but the crucial one is this: the shepherds and Magi did not know they would be called into the Divine Presence.

Those of us who attend Mass know we will be going to church. And there are few shepherds, but far too many people who can afford to dress better who think it’s fine to come in a spaghetti-stained t-shirt bearing a rude message.
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‘We have seen His star and have come to WORSHIP Him’ … of course the Kings knew Whom they were meeting, they brought incense for the purpose.

And the shepherds too - what else could they have possibly thought all the angelic rejoicing was about? A mere human birth?
 
It’s simple really: CLEAN, NEAT, MODEST. If you can say yes to all those three things in regard to what you’re wearing-that should be the extent of your outer preparation. Spend the rest of your time preparing your soul to receive Jesus.

In the old days, we were taught that you NEVER turned around in Church. I can still remember my great grandmother’s hand on my 3 yr old head turning it back towards the altar instead of at the choir loft! School reinforced that maxim, there was nothing going on anywhere in Church that was more important than what was happening on the altar-so there was no reason to be looking around.

If more people did that, maybe there wouldn’t be so much fuss over clothing. 🤷
 
I have read only the first few responses, but I wish that this would be done in all parishes, in all diocese/archdiocese throughout the world.
 
LilyM said:
‘We have seen His star and have come to WORSHIP Him’ … of course the Kings knew Whom they were meeting, they brought incense for the purpose.

And the shepherds too - what else could they have possibly thought all the angelic rejoicing was about? A mere human birth?
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You miss my point, perhaps deliberately. Yes, the shepherds were told by the angel of the Lord that their Savior was born.

So when was their opportunity to change into different clothes? And the means? For the shepherds, none.

There are no excuses.

Today we know whom we are going to worship and have ample opportunity to at least clean up. I am speaking of those people who would not dare go to a job interview dressed in something they apparently dragged from the bottom of their laundry hamper, but see no problem in attending Mass dressed so disgracefully.

And please, save your outrage. I’m not talking about people who can’t afford better clothing.
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
You miss my point, perhaps deliberately. Yes, the shepherds were told by the angel of the Lord that their Savior was born.

So when was their opportunity to change into different clothes? And the means? For the shepherds, none.

There are no excuses.

Today we know whom we are going to worship and have ample opportunity to at least clean up. I am speaking of those people who would not dare go to a job interview dressed in something they apparently dragged from the bottom of their laundry hamper, but see no problem in attending Mass dressed so disgracefully.

And please, save your outrage. I’m not talking about people who can’t afford better clothing.
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I totally agree Sailor. I think we all need to recognise that if one even works in a pigsty he at least cleans up before eating dinner or going out on the town. He usually wears his best clothes for the occasion if going out. Is not presenting oneself in front of the Holy Tabernacle a special occasion deserving of at least our good clothes if not our finest since we are not simply in the company of others but in the house of our Lord?
 
I think I’m on page 3 of this thread, so I’m sorry if I’m jumping in here :o. I just wanted to ask about sandals (and one more thing).

Sandals: Jesus wore sandals (or at least, He’s often depicted as wearing sandals), and there are Religious orders where the nuns & monks wear sandals. Sandals are humble. Is it wrong to wear sandals to mass? I’m not talking flip flops, although in recent years flip flops have become more acceptable at formal occasions (it happened at the White House). I’m referring to sandals… dress sandals, Birkenstocks, Moses sandals, just sandals. Are those bad? Are they okay?

Dress Class: As long as one isn’t wearing something revealing or obscene (such as a t-shirt with uncouth material), then it’s fine, yes? See, I live in a place surrounded by a capitalist minded morality where those who have more money are looked at as being the better class: more deserving of health care… and now, it sounds like, the Eucharist (?). I just want to make sure that humble attire, even unwealthy, humble attire, is okay for mass. Please don’t make me wear sweat-shop designer :p!
 
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