Catholic lawmakers ‘have no basis’ to deny same-sex civil unions after Pope’s historic intervention, says Philippine president

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PS - The site is a homosexual website, but I just posted this article to show the wider effects of the Pope’s words.
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We already knew how those people operate but it seems that some people never learn. It isn’t something new. It would be odd if secular or lgbt media would always post truthful articles about Catholics and Church.

Your words somehow suggest it is all Pope’s fault… “Look what he did with his words” lol.
Well, he sometimes answers things in unusual way and he maybe isn’t perfect in communicating BUT you could notice that not all people believed what newspapers say (day after “news” we had Apostolic nuncio explaining it was cut from old interview (which means #thingspopenevereversaidoutofcertaincontext), and that should be enough for anyone to conclude what is going on) and lgbtq stream is often happy to put things out of context. Actually I often see them enjoying putting it that way (at least in my country).
I just cannot decide do they really do it intentionally (it seems so) or they didn’t know it was fake news (which shows that they don’t search for truth and their “journalism” is sister of tabloid).
 
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Your words somehow suggest it is all Pope’s fault… “Look what he did with his words” lol.
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Lol except he did do it. And he is to blame. And though the entire context of some of the words may have been edited, that doesn’t change that he said we need civil unions. So, your point is moot.
 
Thanks Pope Francis :roll_eyes:

Yet another terrible consequence from your actions. Why do you not care how this affects your people Pope Francis? Why do you not clarify your words? Instead you leave us in the wake of confusion and leaving societies worse off than you found them. Lord Jesus, please help guide your Church! Please guide Pope Francis to make a positive impact on the Earth and to care about your people!
 
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What a terrible way to refer to the Pontiff! Of course, the Pope is doing exactly what you claim he is not - he is caring for people and working to improve things.

This whole forum is in danger of slipping into the morass of holier than thou, more Catholic than the Pope nastiness that has infected some “Catholic” sites.
 
If you want to believe it in your way then believe it, you aren’t only person who believes that. 🤷‍♀️

I am just thinking why some didn’t took it same way? Is there something wrong with them?
 
Are people not aware that the Vatican issued official clarification on the civil unions comment yesterday?

Edit: it wasn’t yesterday, but a few days ago.
 
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And you expect that someone will respect that? Really? Please, don’t make me laugh.

Pope doesn’t have time to edit all people who misuse his words but I am sure he prays for all those who do it and who don’t like him.
 
Probably are but cannot accept it. It doesn’t go with their vision of “Francis - fake pope”.
 
It probably won’t stop until Judgment Day. Only name of pope will be changed from time to time. Nothing new.

You didn’t read Cathecism of Catholic Church?
Why would he say that he didn’t say something that he didn’t say?

I write in general about certain group of people which behaves in certain way.
 
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I will wait for the official English version but I am glad he released something, and I take back some of my harsher criticisms. The first statement about how people with same-sex attraction should not be cast out of a family I agree wholeheartedly and I think he was on point with that message. I still disagree with his support of cohabitation laws, I think that is legislating immorality which ultimately works against the interests of the Church is not good. I also think as Pope, he should not answer such questions about laws and instead affirm Catholic teaching.
 
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I will take the Pope’s side on this over anonymous internet denizens, thanks.
 
Exactly. The Pope must denounce his support for civil unions. They are evil. He needs to stop trying to be a politician when he leads people in many different countries with different definitions of civil union laws. He may think he is towing tactfully some sort of line that is in keeping with Catholic teaching but in the end civil union laws attack Catholic values. I would like him to say civil union laws are not in keeping with the Catholic faith but I doubt he will.
 
I wasn’t, thanks for the link. However, I just read it. It does clarify that the two quotes were edited together from separate questions, and it’s good to have that clarity. However, it also, and correct me if I’m wrong, clarifies that the Pope did in fact, and still does, one assumes, support civil-unions for homosexuals while Bishop. Am I reading this wrong?
 
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Wait let me check something…

OK, that’s what I thought. Francis is still Pope. I will take his view on what the Church teaches over yours, sorry.
 
And I believe Pope Francis is wrong and so do others. He should not be using his position as Pope to be be spouting his personal views that work against the Church. It only harms his people and helps the enemies of the Church.
 
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And I believe Pope Francis is wrong and so do others. He should not be using his position as Pope to be be spouting his personal views that work against the Church. It only harms his people and helps the enemies of the Church.
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You can believe whatever you want, but the people undermining the Church are those that are constantly bashing the Pope and questioning his motives.
 
No, I think you are taking what YOU think the Church teaches (or should teach) over against what the POPE says. Just to be clear.
 
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