Catholic Pro-life Senator Casey endorses pro-abortion Democrat for president

[Ridgerunner]

If YOU vote for Arlen Specter would YOU still go to Holy Communion?:

I didn’t vote for him, so the question is meaningless.

Nor, given the information I have about him, would I have done so.

But that doesn’t resolve the question whether Rick Santorum should have supported him or not, which I think is where you’re really going with this. I don’t know, and will probably never know, why Santorum supported Specter over Toomey. I’m not from Penn and don’t know the situation there. I know one thing. If, despite the support many prolifers gave Toomey, he still didn’t have a chance (and no, I don’t want to go over old poll results), and if Santorum extracted Specter’s promise not to oppose the likes of Roberts and Alito in exchange for his support, and if Santorum knew he was sacrificing his political career to get that done, then Santorum is a saint, not a sinner in the deal. The more I think about it, the more I think it’s probably so. Had there been one more death or resignation on the S.C. during the Republican majority in the Senate, Santorum would almost certainly have singlehandedly ended “abortion on demand”.

This whole political thing is not, for prolifers, a matter of party, per se. It’s not even about political conservatism generally. It’s a matter of how to get done those things that are most likely to result in success in the future. Right now, the prolife cause and political conservatism are near allied. It might not always be, but right now it is.

Oh yes, and are you saying all Republicans are like Arlen Specter? You forgot to answer.

 

[saylo]

You are displaying a “stiff-neckedness” that is not spiritual but political in its core. We have to overcome these temporal surroundings and realize than mankind is a fallen race and going even deeper.

This is the time when we must direct our souls to the Returning Christ who, by the foretold signs of His coming, seem not very far away in time.

We will be judged by our words, deeds and actions and not how skilled we think we are in assessing flawed political parties. They are both flawed…Dems and Repubs.

 

[Ridgerunner]

You are displaying a “stiff-neckedness” that is not spiritual but political in its core. We have to overcome these temporal surroundings and realize than mankind is a fallen race and going even deeper. I am well aware that mankind is a fallen race. It is precisely because of that that I do not expect “temporal surroundings” to be fully overcome until Jesus returns. Jesus never told us that Caesars would not rule this world we are in until he returns. We can’t go hide in a corner and pretend it’s not a hard world requiring action within the parameters of the possible.

This is the time when we must direct our souls to the Returning Christ who, by the foretold signs of His coming, seem not very far away in time. Jesus said that even He did not know the day or the hour. It is impossible for a human being to say when that will be, and it’s presumptious for one to imagine that he/she does.

We will be judged by our words, deeds and actions and not how skilled we think we are in assessing flawed political parties. They are both flawed…Dems and Repubs. Of course they are. Did I ever say otherwise? I said that at this moment in time, conservatives are generally allies with prolifers in the prolife cause. That’s indisputable. Even the leftists and abortionists know that, and say so, even in here.

I take it by your silence that you acknowledge not all Repubs are like Arlen Specter.

 

[JW10631]

Santorum lost for a bunch of reasons.

Santorum supported Specter because Specter supported Santorum when Santorum ran in 1994 and in 2000.

This is the reason Santorum supported Specter.

Santorum’s politics and Toomey’s were far closer than Santorum’s and Specter’s politics ever could be. Nevertheless, Santorum supported Specter and it turned off a lot of Pennsylvania conservatives. the libertarian Pittsburgh Tribune Review was especially harsh on Santorum.

The leftwing proabortion Pittsburgh Post Gazette ran several stories about Santorum’s children being educated in the Pennsylvania cyber charter school system - while living in a house in Leesburg, Virginia. This made Santorum look bad because when Santorum ran against Doug Walgren in the early 1990s Santorum made a point about Representative Walgren living in the DC area year round and Walgren using his mother’s apartment as his address.
Pittsburgh area residents were treated to front page coverage of Penn Hills Democrat Party hacks trespassing on Santorum’s Penn Hill’s house and not finding any activity.

Santorum took a lot of heat for being a supporter of the War in Iraq.

Southwestern Pennsylvania is overwhelmingly Democrat - it’s aging and the population is shrinking as well, and the factors are totally related.

The Philly suburbs are (barely) moderate (Rockefeller) Republican. They are Specter’s power base, and they are swing voters.

Philly votes Democrat.

Regardless of what Saylo says, all of these factors - not Specter’s view of abortion - led to Santorum’s defeat. Santorum could move to a Southern state where his politics are more closely in line with the populace and get re-elected to the Senate, but here in Pennsylvania we are stuck with a drone of Chucky Schumer. Casey is an empty suit who takes his orders from the DNC, and that’s fine with the Democrat establishment in Pennsylvania.

 

[brandymmiller]

George Washington wisely stated that party politics would spell the death of our nation. They only create divisions and self-interest. I vote for the person, not the party. If the person has a pro-life record and I agree with his other stances on the issues, I will vote for him or her. If the person does not have a pro-life stance, voting for him or her simply isn’t an option. Life is a pre-requisite for both liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you have no life, you have no liberty.

 

[BOBKAT]

George Washington wisely stated that party politics would spell the death of our nation. They only create divisions and self-interest. I vote for the person, not the party. If the person has a pro-life record and I agree with his other stances on the issues, I will vote for him or her. If the person does not have a pro-life stance, voting for him or her simply isn’t an option. Life is a pre-requisite for both liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you have no life, you have no liberty.

I’m with you vote for LIFE no matter what party it is in.