Catholic Relief Services insists on its fidelity to Church teaching [CWN]
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_Abyssinia
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“Coordinated series of attacks, condemning aspects of our work, our partners, professional associations, and even some of our employees,” is aggressive language for the reality that they have not been totally in fidelity to the Church and the fact they use this language feels like they still do not understand why there has been such dismay
CRS manuel in Vietnam for staff said ‘-]not forget to provide information on local condom provision/-]?’
CRS have got a video on their website promoting pro condom HIV programs in Africa which they say has reached 60000
Woman who worked for CRS rammed pro lifers with her car
CRS has received $21.8 million from the pro contraception and pro abortion Gates foundation
CRS’ top grant recipent is a promoter of condoms
CRS manuel in Vietnam for staff said ‘-]not forget to provide information on local condom provision/-]?’
CRS have got a video on their website promoting pro condom HIV programs in Africa which they say has reached 60000
Woman who worked for CRS rammed pro lifers with her car
CRS has received $21.8 million from the pro contraception and pro abortion Gates foundation
CRS’ top grant recipent is a promoter of condoms
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newswire.crs.org/crs-responds-to-accusations-about-the-core-group
Why give the funds to condom promoter CARE? There are many charities that do not promote contraception, why not give it to them? Why have the risk by giving millions of dollars to CARE that could be fungible and used to promote immoral drugs?
Melinda Gates favours depo provera. University of Washington researchers studied women in Africa and found that the use of depo provera doubled the transmission rates of HIV. 3 mechanisms were cited, hormonal contraceptives weaken the immune system and recur a woman’s ability to repel HIV infection, hormonal contraceptions cause vaginal lining to thin and develop tiny tears that increase exposure to HIV during sex, and women who are HIV positive and take hormonal contraceptives create more HIV virus making them more infectious. These drugs Melinda Gates want to give in HIV torn countries?
Gates foundation helps people with 1 hand with microfinancing etc and endanger lives with the other with promoting contraception. Should this be an organisation that CRS involves itself?
This is not an answer as to why they CRS had a manuel that said to staff in Vietnam to ‘not forget to provide information on local condom provision?’
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Rgearding the fungibility of the grant to CARE
lifesitenews.com/news/u.s.-bishops-relief-agency-gives-5.3-million-to-major-contraception-provide
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missionarygirl
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That’s a relief, since I have been considering joining CRS.
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I do not want to doubt CRS but after all that has been found I can not help but doubt their conclusion. CRS are not in CARE’s offices, how can they know 100% what they do with the grant? Why does CRS take the risk with CARE when there are many other charities
po18guy
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Exactly! They bear the ultimate responsibility to be good shepherds of the cash that is given to them. The evidence is both substantial, and mounting, that they have failed in this regard. Prudential judgment is clearly lacking, or has been willfully suppressed.
I know not why so many have this almost political party-like devotion to them. There are many other organizations to donate to.
As an aside, since Ken Hackett retired and Carolyn Woo took over CRS, I have begun, for the first time in decades, to receive solicitations from CARE directly, as well as from many other completely secular (i.e.abortion/contraception providing) organizations. The prima facie cause of this is that CRS is now sharing my info.
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RobbyS
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There are LOTs of liberal Catholics in the Church, including the late Cardinal of Milan, who think this way. We can guess that if we put some of our cardinals on the rack, they would be admitting that they do also. Thank God for the Africans et al.
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MHichborn
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What I would like to know is why secular, non-Catholic organizations receiving grants from the Catholic Campaign for Human Development are held to a higher standard than Catholic Relief Services: societasrestituo.org/2012/10/29/is-catholic-relief-services-above-the-bishops/
Ralph McCloud, executive director for the CCHD said, “to work with organizations who are working against some of the things that we’re teaching, the tradition that we have — we just have no tolerance for that.”
Why does Catholic Relief Services “tolerate” giving Catholic-donated dollars to an organization like MEDiCAM, which is HELL-Bent on spreading abortions throughout Cambodia, even to the point of training nurses in how to perform abortions???
Ralph McCloud, executive director for the CCHD said, “to work with organizations who are working against some of the things that we’re teaching, the tradition that we have — we just have no tolerance for that.”
Why does Catholic Relief Services “tolerate” giving Catholic-donated dollars to an organization like MEDiCAM, which is HELL-Bent on spreading abortions throughout Cambodia, even to the point of training nurses in how to perform abortions???
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zab
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The update is about the criticisms and the responses from CRS from the past few months. I supposed it is necessary to keep this update going because there may be more people looking into CRS for answers to all of the harsh criticism that continues to spread. Everything has already been discussed here on CAF. I see no reason to rehash it. I believe the responses from CRS are sufficient.
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MHichborn
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Again, this fails to address the very SPECIFIC question I asked. Did you read the article from Societas Restituo I posted? In case not, I’ll set the case out here so as to avoid confusion:
Given this, the standard set by the CCHD and the Bishops of the United States is that it is unacceptable for an organization receiving funding from the Catholic Church to be a member of an organization which acts against the Church through its immoral policies and practices.
HOWEVER … Catholic Relief Services is a dues-paying member and on the board of the CORE Group, which spends a significant portion of its budget on "Family Planning Services. Exhibit #5
Furthermore, CRS is a member and on the steering committee of MEDiCAM, which is working hard on spreading abortion throughout the nation of Cambodia. Exhibit #6.
When confronted with this information, the answer from CRS was completely identical, except for the name of the offending organization CRS is a member of. CRS said:
The defenses between what the Land Stewardship Project said about its membership in its coalitions and what Catholic Relief Services said about its membership in its coalitions is almost completely identical … and in fact, even though the words are different, the reasoning is exactly the same.
AND YET … The Bishops saw fit to defund Land Stewardship Project, regardless of this excuse, and CRS’ defense remains publicly uncontested.
THEREFORE … my question stands. Why is Catholic Relief Services held to a lower standard than the Land Stewardship Project with regard to coalition memberships?
- The Catholic Campaign for Human Development recently defunded the Land Stewardship Project because it is a member of 2 organizations promoting same-sex marriage. Exhibit #1.
- The Land Stewardship Project protested this defunding with the following defense:
Exhibit #2.
- Ralph McCloud, executive director of the CCHD, defended CCHD’s decision to defund Land Stewardship Project by saying:
Exhibit #3.
- The CCHD guideline on coalitions states:
Exhibit #4
Given this, the standard set by the CCHD and the Bishops of the United States is that it is unacceptable for an organization receiving funding from the Catholic Church to be a member of an organization which acts against the Church through its immoral policies and practices.
HOWEVER … Catholic Relief Services is a dues-paying member and on the board of the CORE Group, which spends a significant portion of its budget on "Family Planning Services. Exhibit #5
Furthermore, CRS is a member and on the steering committee of MEDiCAM, which is working hard on spreading abortion throughout the nation of Cambodia. Exhibit #6.
When confronted with this information, the answer from CRS was completely identical, except for the name of the offending organization CRS is a member of. CRS said:
Exhibit #7, Exhibit #8
The defenses between what the Land Stewardship Project said about its membership in its coalitions and what Catholic Relief Services said about its membership in its coalitions is almost completely identical … and in fact, even though the words are different, the reasoning is exactly the same.
AND YET … The Bishops saw fit to defund Land Stewardship Project, regardless of this excuse, and CRS’ defense remains publicly uncontested.
THEREFORE … my question stands. Why is Catholic Relief Services held to a lower standard than the Land Stewardship Project with regard to coalition memberships?
po18guy
Well-known member
Are you associated with, or affiliated with CRS in any way? Just wondering, as you seem to be leading the charge in defense of an organization which mirrors the errors of the Campaign for Human Development. Even the CHD has admitted errors and taken at least some corrective action.
Very strange, to my eyes.
Very strange, to my eyes.
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Tigg
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So right, po18guy, and the USCCB themselves have corrected potentials for scandal within their own ranks, but the boisterous and political minds at CRS, intent on all things UN-Catholic, seem oblivious to it all.
So right, po18guy, and the USCCB themselves have corrected potentials for scandal within their own ranks, but the boisterous and political minds at CRS, intent on all things UN-Catholic, seem oblivious to it all.
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Luigi_Daniele
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They need to do a lot to convince me to ever give them another nickel of my money.
po18guy
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You completely lost me.
po18guy
Well-known member
I called and had them remove my name from solicitation - explaining the reasons. Whatever happened to avoiding even the appearance of impropriety?
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zab
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I do not know if what you say is true, that CRS is held to a lower standard than secular, non-Catholic entities. The responses and corrections that CRS has made following the recent attacks against them obviously have not been enough to please you (who has spent more time investigating them as well as CCHD than I). My question to you is: What do you want us to do about it- stop contributing to CRS? What major organization could you suggest for us to contribute to in order to help the needy people around the world including those who are effected by the most recent natural disaster.?
po18guy
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I know of no Church requirement to contribute to CRS. And, they are not above criticism where and when it is warranted, correct?
You want to save lives directly? How about contributing the the El Obeid Diocese in South Sudan, under the tutelage of Nobel Peace Price nominee Bishop Macram Gassis?
www.bishopgassis.org
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